Many Canadian companies are affected by stuff like Sarbanes-Oxley, although granted a 
small shop here in Ontario probably isn't.

Phil 

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I noticed the Canadian domain though and figure he has other issues to contend with.  
EU and US rules and regs aren't likely high among them yet (ofa.on.ca is the senders 
domain). 

But that would likely be true for that and many other regulations around the world.



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Not to mention illegal, if you're under Sarbanes-Oxley controls, right?

<mc>

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Yup, you brought it on Deji. :)

To add to the fodder:

Keep in mind that passwords are stored in a way that prevents you from getting them 
back out without cracking them.  That's not a foolproof way to gather the data you 
want.  

I agree it is a bad idea to do that.  However, if you wanted to get them and let them 
change their own passwords, you would want a web based system that collects the data 
at the beginning of the cycle.  You could then use the web interface to change 
passwords on other systems as well providing additional benefit.  Something like 
IISADMPWD in a modified version might be useful for such a solution.  

If you haven't heard it enough already, it's a bad idea to collect user passwords 
though.  It defeats a ton of safeguards and puts you at risk for finger pointing etc.  
Better to just reset passwords and tell the user of their new password should you need 
to access the services as that user, as suggested by plenty of others on this thread.

Al 

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Omg, Deji...here we go

<mc>

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I don't think there is such tool natively. I imagine that you could put a web 
interface on a vbscript where you direct your users to go to when they need to change 
their passwords. In the code, you will then put in a routine that grabs the value they 
type in and email it to you.
 
Now, I will get away quickly before Joe shows up with another 
"why-you-should-not-do-this" clue stick (I mean, KB article) :p
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?  -anon

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 Hi Group,

    I have already delved into the archives and I couldn't find quite what I was 
looking for. It is very possible that I looked over it, and if I did I apologize in 
advance. Now, to my question: We are a fairly small shop here (about 40 users) and the 
traditional way of doing a password change was to collect new passwords from everyone 
and then I change them in AD as well as in a couple of other places (i.e. like 
synchronizing them with our non-Exchange mail server). We did this so that in case 
somebody was away on vacation and we needed to log on to their computer (with their 
profile) we could do it. It saves the hassle of say, logging in with a domain account 
and then manually opening up a PST file or something like that.

    I would like to have the user's change their own passwords, but I would also like 
to be able to know their new passwords. We have had numerous issues in the past with 
people telling us their wrong passwords, so I would like to get it straight from AD if 
possible. Right now the only solution I can see is cracking all of the passwords, but 
that isn't the most feasible way.

    Does anyone know of a solution? Maybe something like an email generated by some 
sort of script with the new password? Sorry if this email dragged on for a bit. Any 
help is appreciated. Thanks. 
 
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