You really don't need to disable those, you can turn on the (when
possible) ones instead as to not give up security all together for your
2000/xp clients.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier,
Guido
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:33 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 95\98 on Windows 2003 domain

but as security doesn't seem to be your main worry, you could also turn
off these new settings for the interims until you've updated the clients
to a newer OS or installed the DSclient on them - so you can DISABLE the
following security settings in the Default Domain Controllers policy to
improve your 9x communication with Win2k3 DCs:

Microsoft Network Server: Digitally sign communications (always)
Domain Member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always) 

This should allow your 9x clients to authenticate against Win2k3 DCs.

/Guido

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:56 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 95\98 on Windows 2003 domain

Yes, as I mentioned in another post: when Windows 2003 AD came out it
included 2 new security mechanisms that are required for authentication.
Downlevel clients (WfW, Win9x and WinNT) are not capable of
communicating with those security mechanisms unless they are upgraded
(WfW) or have the DS Client.

Phil 

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Charles
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:48 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 95\98 on Windows 2003 domain

Just one last question before this string goes away:  

Has anyone joined a Windows 98 machine to a Native Windows 2003 AD
Domain that was not upgraded from an NT domain before?  All of the
responses I have seen have only been for a Windows 2000 AD and I'm
wondering if a new security enhancement in 2003 is what is preventing my
98 machines from seeing and connecting to the 2003 AD.

charle  

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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:34 AM
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I think there is more I have to do to get it work with AD though.  Don't
have I to make sure that the workstation is using NTLM2 authentication
and SMB signing?  (In which case I still might have to write off my
Win95 boxes because I don't believe that they support either of those.)

I really hope that I'm wrong, but then again if I'm right then they will
all
be forced to upgrade.   I just need to make sure that I exhaust all
resources before I go and tell someone the bad news about the 95 boxes.


But I think that the script option might be the best approach.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:24 AM
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Ok, it was worth a shot.  I have not heard of or seen any tool that will
help you with this.  The only thing I can think of it in your logon
script have it copy a script to the 9x machine, modify the registry to
RunOnce that script you just copied and have that script on next logon
change the domain member ship If that is at all possible.

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Charles
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:13 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 95\98 on Windows 2003 domain

Upgrading is not an option in this case.  Politically its not allowed
and technically its not that feasible either (there is an issue with the
number of Exchange 5.5 environments that are going to be migrated into
the new forest and how this is planned to be done).  

-----Original Message-----
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:07 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 95\98 on Windows 2003 domain


You could potentially upgrade your NT Domain to a child domain of a AD
forest.  This would allow you to keep the netbios name at least for your
network.

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Charles
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:58 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 95\98 on Windows 2003 domain

We are doing a migration from an NT domain into child domain of new AD
forest so we cannot keep the same netbios name.  We also have a slight
problem with our naming convention in that all of our DCs are going to
have nine character names.  

Thanks, chuck 

-----Original Message-----
From: Salandra, Justin A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:54 AM
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If you build your Windows 2003 domain with the same netbios domain name
they Win 9x won't care one way or another.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carerros,
Charles
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:39 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] Windows 95\98 on Windows 2003 domain

Hey group,

I'm trying to find an easy way to do a massive migration of Windows
95\98
workstation from an NT domain to a Windows 2003 AD domain, however the
tools that I'm finding don't seem to function, don't exists, or after
installation I can't seem to find a domain controller. 

Also, MS seems to have dropped the link to Q article 323466 which is
supposed to have an updated DS client.

If someone has already created some documentation on this process, it
would be extremely helpful.

Thanks,

Charlie
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