Doh!

You should have stuck to your guns James!

My only defence is that I had never actually used User components in site
policies before. I have now and agree that the User does receive the User
based settings that exist in the policies connected to the site.

Alan C


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From: "Jeff Salisbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:26 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OU and Policies


> I use Site GPOs extensively to have Site-specific logon scripts run. I
just double-checked, and the logon/logoff script settings are definitely in
the User portion of the GPO.
>
> If I remember correctly, the computer determines what site it is in during
GPO processing, and applies any associated Site GPO objects. This includes
both parts of Site GPOs. In our case the logon script associated with the
Site is launched from the User portion of the GPO, and maps the drives
appropriate for that site. User settings in Domain or OU policies will be
applied after settings from the Site  GPO, so they may override whatever
User or Computer settings you are trying to apply in the Site GPO
(Local->Site->Domain->OU...).
>
> Jeff
>
> Jeff Salisbury
> Network Infrastructure and Security Manager
> Belkin Corporation
> Information Services
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> Thanks for pointed out my boneheadedness - site policies will apply on the
computer but do not apply to the user because, obviously, a user will never
be part of an ip subnet.  The site policies would work well for applying
laptop settings for travelling laptops, not for setting user settings for
multiple machines.
>
> Sorry for any confusion I caused during my caffeine lacking state this
morning.
>
> Regards;
>
> James R. Day
> Active Directory Core Team
> Office of the Chief Information Officer
> National Park Service
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> Mario,
>
> I think you have got it now...
>
> The OU that the USER belongs to should contain the policies you normally
want
>
> The OU the Citrix server belongs to should contain the Loopback option
enabled. It should also contain the User polices that you want the user to
get when they log on to Citrix
>
> If you set Loopback processing to REPLACE, then the User will ONLY get the
settings defined in the Citrix OU
>
> If you set Loopback processing to MERGE, then the User will get the their
normal settings, followed by those in the Citrix OU.
>
> I normally prefer MERGE since you don't have to create your common
policies twice.
>
> The blocking of policies confuses the situation and just
>
> Note: I think James is mistaken about Site Policies. My understanding is
that all that sites policies do is add another set of policies that the
machines receive. It does not effect the user settings  Admittedly, if
Loopback processing is enabled, the user will get the User component of the
policies held in the CITRIX OU policy plus the User polices held in the site
policy.
>
> Can I just put in a plug for our free Policy Log Reporter. It makes it
very easy to see exactly what is happening on the machine when policies were
applied, i.e what OU's and sites were checked, what policies were found,
what were rejected because of security, what was rejected because of
blocking, what was used because of loopback etc. Of course all the
information is in the UserENV log, but you have to be someone like Darren to
understand it!
> http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir2&f=policyreporter.shtml
>
>
> Alan Cuthbertson
>
>
>  Policy Management Software:-
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> http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedir2&f=policyreporter.shtml
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