In secpol.msc under "ip security policies on local machine". open up one of the 
pre built policies and go to authentication. you have a choice of pre shared 
key,cert and kerberos.
kerberos is checked off as the default.
Thanks

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Can you clarify as to where you are seeing Kerberos as an option for
L2TP/IPSEC?

Thanks

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Then why oh why is kerberos an option?

thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard, Aric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:37 AM
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Tom,

I do not think you can use L2TP/IPSEC without a certificate.

Regards,

Aric

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:28 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Hate to beg..

I don't want to beat a dead horse,but can someone point me to a doc or
resource on configuring Win2k RRAS VPN server for L2TP/IPsec with WinXP
clients using Kerberos and NOT pre-shared keys or certs?

I have edited ipsec gpo's on both client and RRAS server and still I get
a "need cert" error.
Please help.

Thanks. I know I've been sending alot of emails to the list on this but
i really would like to get it going. I have 10 winxp domain members(user
and machine) that need to connect over a dsl link thru the internet to
us for exchange email,auth,and term services. I wanted to implement a
RRAS IPsec solution so i wouldn't have to push out vpn clients. This
dept of users does not have the money to buy a dedicated server for end
to end RRAS so I think this solution works best. However,right now its a
chicken and egg thing so i can't push out a cert and would rather use
IPsec instead of pptp.

Thanks again
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