Hint taken. One of the problems with the NTSim product was that generally AD customers didn't need AD capacity planning, they needed AD deployment, migration, and operations tools. The market has certainly matured since then, but I'm still unconvinced that there is a broad need for AD capacity planning. 2-3 customers does not a successful product make. Unless it's a really _expensive_ product :)
-gil -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruston, Neil Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 9:34 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Stress testing and performance analysis of domain controllers That *is* it, but the company and it's affiliation with NetPro no longer exist :( [according to out NetPro Account Manager] Shame, there's definitely a gap in the market here... <hint hint> :) neil -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Baudino Sent: 07 December 2004 13:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Stress testing and performance analysis of domain controllers Is this it? Someone here talked to them about a year ago but their licensing wasn't flexible enough for us. http://www.functional-it.com/pdf_documents/NTSIM_SERVER.pdf "Ruston, Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Stress testing and performance analysis of domain controllers tivedir.org 12/07/2004 05:52 AM Please respond to ActiveDir Gil et al (not Al :), "There was a company in the UK named NTSim that had a performance-simulation program for AD, but I think they may have gone under." I thought NetPro licensed this and re-packaged as DirectorySim? What happened to that tool? This may answer all/most of my questions :) Did Netpro encompass this in another of their apps? Thanks, neil -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: 06 December 2004 17:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Stress testing and performance analysis of domain controllers See http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/all/de ployguide/en-us/dssbj_dcc_imef.asp for more MSFT-approved information re: /3gb on DCs. Server Performance Advisor http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=61a41d78-e4aa-4 7b9-901b-cf85da075a73&displaylang=en might provide some insight but it is not predictive. There was a company in the UK named NTSim that had a performance-simulation program for AD, but I think they may have gone under. I've used the ADTEST programs and scripts from Microsoft to generate repeatable loads and it seems to work well, even if it is a bit of a pain to set up. You didn't say anything about the size of your DIT, but generally, providing enough RAM to cache the entire DIT plus indices is a big win. Several large customers have deployed 64-bit DCs with gobs (1 Gob = 8GB :) of memory to do this and have been quite pleased. -gil Gil Kirkpatrick CTO, NetPro "To fly, flip away backhanded. Flat flip flies straight. Tilted flip curves. Experiment!" -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Shirley Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Stress testing and performance analysis of domain controllers Really? Z:\ntds\db>dir ... 05/20/2004 07:47 AM 7,899,987,968 ntds.dit ... Cheers, -BrettSh On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Renouf, Phil wrote: > You don't need the /3GB switch for a DC. Just having more than 2GB of > ram does not require using the /3GB switch, systems like Exchange > require it, but a DC shouldn't need it. > > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruston, Neil > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 11:57 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: [ActiveDir] Stress testing and performance analysis of domain > controllers > > As part of a more general AD design refresh, I am re-visiting the DC > hardware and OS configuration. > > I am proposing several changes to the DC spec, including the adoption of > the following: > > * Use 4Gb RAM > * Use /3gb switch > * Place AD logs and database on separate disk spindles > > > In order to 'sell' this idea, I would like to demonstrate the effective > increase in 'horse power' that the above offers. 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