The uninstall should take it out clean, but as with anything else, be
careful.  The problem I would be most concerned about is the store names
(it's supposed to be by GUID with a display name the same as the previous.
Because it was a restore, it would be a good idea to make sure that the
GUIDs are indeed different. Not sure how it would have started if it wasn't,
but..)

They should be located under different paths in the directory, but just to
be sure, you may want to ensure you have good AD and Exchange backups.  

FWIW, this is similar in concept to dial-tone recoverability.  It's
something that's talked about in E2K3 DR papers.  Might be worth a read to
see what gets hooked and what doesn't in the directory before proceeding.

Al 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:unusual exchange restore

The  logical name of the mailstore is the same as the name of the old
mailstore(same for storage group). I thought it has to be for a successful
restore.



I removed exchange attributes for the user i'm trying to exmerge and i was
able to reconnect with another user and ran exmerge succesfully.
Thanks for all your help, Al.


i know i was venturing into uncharted and potentially bad territory here as
this is NOT a documented way of restoring a mailbox/info store.
I understand you should create a seperate recovery forest(or RSG, if running
exchange2k3). However, my company wanted this done now and we had no scsi
adapter or tape drive on the recovery server and they didn't want to wait to
oder one(though now i realize too late, i might have been able to do this
via VMware).
I realize thats not a good answer, but its all i've got. I certainly don't
want to encourage such bad practices.

On a side note, do you know the best method for uninstalling an exchange
server cleanly from AD(will it clean up after itself and remove all objects
and attributes pointing to itself?).

Thanks again. And i would understand if you didn't want to help me earlier
as i could've intentionally fubar'ed my AD/Exchange due to my giving in to
management so easily.
So, thanks alot!


-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:42 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:unusual exchange restore


What is the mailstore name being reported in AD for the restored server?

Al  

 

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Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:37 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:unusual exchange restore

there is not one error in my logs.
i bounced the server.

mailstores maybe independent, but it is all in AD. the mailstore object is
in AD. Its getting this info from somewhere that a user is still connected
to a mailbox(AD).
when i use ESM, i'm connected to AD. so logic tells me this error i'm
getting is from an attribute in AD still referencing the wrong object.

thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:29 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:unusual exchange restore


I wouldn't think so.  Have you tried bouncing the store service on that
restored server?  

I don't recall if the restore programs are smart enough to try to recover
the mailstores, but the stores themselves are independent of the directory
objects.  That said, it's a matter of getting the reconnect to a new object.


What's in the application event log during all of this on the restored
machine?

Al 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:25 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:unusual exchange restore

i have run the cleanup agent and i have new users to connect them to,
however when i try to reconnect, i get the error that the mailbox is already
connected.
i think the problem is, when i redirected the restore, the mailboxes or the
info store on the new server still references the old users in AD.
Then when exmerge runs it checks a gc to get AD users based on the mailbox
attribute and gets nothing for that server.

As i said, i redirected the restore to a new server in the same forest. so
the redirected mailboxes are referencing users that still exist but point to
different mailboxes.


my idea is- since the user i'm trying to pst is gone, maybe if i delete
exchange attributes for that user AND then use an account to reconnect to?


thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:02 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:unusual exchange restore


Do you have new user objects to connect them to? Have you run mailbox
cleanup agent? 

Once restored, these are just data store entries.  There is no DS/IS concept
to automatically create directory objects, so you have to create objects for
them.  

In your case, you *should* be able to create objects and connect one of
these. 

The old users are not relevant really. The error is expected.  

MBCONNECT might be an interesting tool for you as well.

Al

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 6:37 PM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT:unusual exchange restore

Hi. I had to restore my info store from a few months back  for legal
reasons. However, the upper management did not want to shell out for a tape
drive or scsi controller so i tried redirecting a db restore to a new
exchange2k server in the same forest/admin group( i know there are no docs
on this and ms and everyone recommends a new forest).
this worked and everything restored with no issues.
however, i cannot reconnect to the mailboxes thru ESM. I get a "this
operation cannot be performed because this mailbox was reconnected to an
exisiting user".
all the mailboxes have a red X in them, impiling they are not connected to
any users after running the cleanup agent.
And yes, the old users exist and have mailboxes on another server.
i'm unable to run exmerge on these boxes- it gives me a "no users were found
containing mailboxes"
so its a chicken and egg thing now.

any ideas would be great.
thanks
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