Yep, the 2000 boxes wouldn't talk back to many of the *NIX utilities
because they only did SNTP

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Ah...maybe it's the difference between Win2000 and Win2003 then. My
domains are still 2000. Thanks Bob

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 >W2K3 is supposed to answer for both IIRC, 

It will in my experience. It will answer *NTP queries as "NTP Version 3,
Mode 4"


Windows Time Service Technical Reference - Networking Services: Windows
Server 2003:
http://www.microsoft.com/Resources/Documentation/windowsserv/2003/all/te
chref/en-us/W2K3TR_times_intro.asp?frame=true
The Windows Time service uses the Network Time Protocol (NTP) to help
synchronize time across a network. NTP is an Internet time protocol that
includes the discipline algorithms necessary for synchronizing clocks.
NTP is a more accurate time protocol than the Simple Network Time
Protocol (SNTP) that is used in some versions of Windows; however
W32Time continues to support SNTP to enable backward compatibility with
computers running SNTP-based time services, such as Windows 2000.

from one of the MS Folks-

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I own the time service for Windows, so I can field the OS question. The
NTP server in Windows 2003 is NTP V3 RFC compliant and third party NTP
clients can (well *should*) be able to sync with it. When you say
"doesn't seem to recognize", is there an error message? How does it find
a valid NTP server? 
-Nathan





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It can work, what problems are you having?  What kinds of errors and
what
are you using?

W2K3 is supposed to answer for both IIRC, but that was in the archives.
There are still some nuances that might be getting in your way.  You
know,
the nuances about how an RFC is interpreted when it says things like
"SHOULD" vs. "MUST" :)






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Folks, I'd like to throw this back out for comments if I can. A while
back I
asked about using our current W32Time server, the forest root AD box, as
the
authoritative time server for the non-Windows clients on our network. I
haven't had any luck getting this to work. If I remember correctly,
W32Time
is a derivation of the NTP protocol, (is it SNTP maybe??). Anyway,
nothing
I've tried enables the Linux and Unix boxes to sync with this server.
One
article I read said it will not work, but you obviously can't rely on
everything posted on the net :-)

Am I missing something, or do I need to maybe look at a 3rd party
solution
to handle all of the time services? What are some of you using for this
situation? Thanks!

Mark Creamer

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