Yeah, I don't own the rights <img desc="Picture of Satan on my shoulder
cackling with glee"/>, but I might be able to get them. I'll have to
look into it.

-gil 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 2:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP

Probably depends on his agreement with the publisher on whether he can
do it
or not. Gil may not own the rights to the book to do this even if he
wants
to. Personally I think he should update it and sell it. The first time
around it was pretty early in the AD world without a huge number of
adopters. Different market now.

  joe 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 2:44 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP

If it's out of print, Gil should just make the PDF available free to
list
members online... :-) Unless of course, he's planning to actually DO
those
reprints and make some money off of them...
<G>

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Charlie Kaiser
MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
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510 595 5083
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 9:39 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP
> 
> I recommend your book a lot as well, in fact there is at least one 
> list member that has been trying to buy the darn thing based on my 
> recommendation but can't find it anywhere!!!! I have pointed at a 
> couple of resources, it was actually ordered from one resource (ebay) 
> and the member got a note back saying, oh sorry, I haven't had that in

> stock for over a year.... So get with it Gil! Reprints! And don't 
> forget about getting me royalties for people I send that way. ;oP
> 
> Anyway, for this person, I am not sure throwing them into AD 
> programming book is the best course at least initially. :o)  It is 
> like someone who wants to use kerberos and you point them at the MIT 
> dist.
> 
>   joe
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil 
> Kirkpatrick
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 12:19 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP
> 
> Aww, man... How come my book isn't up there?
> 
> -gil
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP
> 
> Hey now... Don't forget about Alistair. He did that first edition 
> himself and did it well. :)
> 
> The Cat Book rocks. Actually I should get royalties for that one too, 
> I have made a bunch of people buy it and have bought and given away 
> multiple copies myself. I still have my first copy though it is quite 
> dog-eared and I put laminating plastic on the covers so they wouldn't 
> get too torn up.
> 
> Here is the actual AD Org Books link - 
> http://www.activedir.org/Books.aspx , actually it would be kind of 
> cool if we could rate them. How about it Tony?
> Have a couple of fields for each, number of people who have the book, 
> number of people who recommend it, number of people who don't 
> recommend it.
> 
> I am surprised AD Developers Reference Library by Iseminger is on the 
> list.
> That is a great book but wouldn't expect a lot of the list users to 
> have read it. I recall reading it back in like 2001 or so and getting 
> a bit scared at what a really pissed off AD programmer could pull off.
> 
> 
>   joe
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:58 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP
> 
> Personally?  I like to think of AD as a GUI to Microsoft's 
> implementation of LDAP.  That simplifies a lot of things for me.  
> However, there is more to it than that and the books you ordered 
> should help in clarifying that.
> 
> You don't need to know LDAP to make AD work, but it helps.  
> It's a great
> help to me to understand the differences between Microsoft's AD and 
> Sun's implementation of LDAP or IBM's implementation or any of the 
> others for the basics.
> 
> When you start getting into managing the directory and the objects in 
> the directory, Microsoft really differentiates itself with GPO's and 
> the multi-master replication and the tools to support the 
> infrastructure.
> 
> As you're looking at this, remember that name resolution is one of the

> most important things you can deal with when making AD a solid 
> enterprise app.
> 
> The book from O'Reilly sounds like Robbie's book.  I haven't read it, 
> but have heard good things about it (what can I say Robbie, I don't 
> have a budget for it :)  If it's not Robbie's book for AD, then it 
> would be a good idea to grab that one as well.
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596004664/103-8355416-0173405
> 
> Sakari Kouti also has written a good book, called, "Inside Active 
> Directory"
> that would be worth picking up. http://www.kouti.com/
> 
> You should be able to find some other information about books at 
> http://www.activedir.org
> 
> 
> Al
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenny Mann
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:41 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP
> 
> I don't understand LDAP and Active Directory as much as I should.
> So, I've ordered 2 LDAP books (O'Reilly and another) to learn.
> I'm curious as to how much LDAP and Active Directory have in common. 
> Is AD just a GUI for LDAP?
> Perhaps there is a book everyone here recommends or will my LDAP books

> hopefully cover enough so I could be able to feel my way around Active

> Directory good enough?
> 
> Doing a search with the word 'book' gives a ton of irrelvent searches 
> in the archives.
> I saw one book but it's out of print.
> 
> Kenny Mann
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