Thanks for the clarification Joe ... and to add to his sentiment; Gil and the NetPro staff were, as always, enthusiastic and way more than accommodating hosts.
-- Dean Wells MSEtechnology * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msetechnology.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:05 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Have fun at DEC I just wanted to point out here that the "host" wasn't actually Gil; Gil and the NetPro staff[1]were great as always. The host was a presenter who had a rather troublesome presentation on AD Security earlier that day. I have never seen a presenter beaten down like that but he asked for it with what he said. It was this presentor's machines I believe that were configured for these tests. Gil is enough of a geek that had he been sitting there and knew what was going on would have been ok with us screwing around all night[2] if we wanted, especially if he would have learned something himself. The "presentor" was rather rude. In the middle of Dean showing off some things and answering questions from quite a crowd of people standing around he went over and pulled the plug out of the wall. joe [1] Hi Stella, Hi Christine!!! [2] As the session name implied... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Wells Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:38 PM To: Send - AD mailing list Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Have fun at DEC I also enjoyed meeting you Jorge, I had a great time (we'll each bring a local cigar next time, sound good?) I didn't participate on either side in the "AD all night thingy", myself and a couple of others (Joe that I know of) volunteered to answer peoples questions ... at its end, I'd hoped to demonstrate a few tricks but the host of the "AD all night" event demonstrated his courtesy instead :) -- Dean Wells MSEtechnology * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msetechnology.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida Pinto Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:45 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Have fun at DEC Fun at DEC? Yeahh it was fun. It was also great to meat Gil, Guido, Dean, Joe, Rick and Deji in person. No chicken as I hoped for, but a t-shirt (that not even said "I went to DEC to get a rubber chicken but all I got was this lousy t-shirt") and we also got a bag. Gil was walking around with his bag that had a rope attached to it and the rubber chicken was hanging at the end of the rope. We all heart the rubber chicken "cry" (hee.. I would cry if I had a rope around my neck! ;-)) ) on monday during the "AD all night" session. By the way.. that session was also fun. It all started with 4 environments and each environment contained 1 forest and 1 domain with 2 DCs some wireless network stuff, an ADMINS team and a USERS team. In each environment security (whatever you could think of!!!) was really screwed! The admins (a complete team of people incl. Dean, Joe, Rick and Deji) had about 15 min. to correct all security screw-ups they could. After that the users came in and started working on the network using laptops with all kinds of hacking tools. We were supposed to wait 15 min. but we (I) didn't (hey a hacker doesn't wait until your network is safe and all security vulnerabilities are solved by you! So we didn't either). While the admins were searching and solving al vulnerabilities I already created two user accounts anonymously and added those to the adminstrators and domain admins groups. After we created the accounts we thought we should wait a bit so the admins had the chance to to some work. We also hoped they didn't find the accounts.... Crap that didn't work as we afterwards wan't to delete all kinds of things in AD to screw it up as bad as possible. The caveat was that if some admin found us screweing around and he could prove we did the damage the user got fired. If a user screwed up something and an admin did not prevent it the admin got fired. I still don't who did it, but after a while both DCs started rebooting and rebooting. The admins shut down the wireless network appliances so they couldn't be attacked. We as users started complaining about that we could do our work and that the SLA sucked..... ;-)) The DCs were not physically secured (hey that's also important!) and one of the users pulled the power plug of the DCs and those went down... The user was caught on the act and got fired. The admin that was responsible got demoted.... From admin to user! Hahaha. That wasn't also bad because that admin also knew all the passwords. As soon as we knew the password of the administrator account we tried again to screw it up. After a while everything was closed down to maximum security (at least I think it was as we were not able to do anything). Better yet the admins could do much either because the DC was so screwed it didn't even know it had a schema (or something like that). ;-)) Again: great session! Hope to attend again next year Cheers Jorge -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 09:15 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Have fun at DEC At least I heard the chicken this year, I never had heard it. I was pretty well toasted at the time and thought a goose was running around the conference room. joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Gilbert Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 11:20 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Have fun at DEC I believe I am the proud owner of the last DEC chicken. Gil gave it to me at DEC in Ontario. Sure wish I could have made it to DEC this year. Dan > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Have fun at DEC > From: "joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, March 11, 2005 5:16 pm > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > > Unfortunately Gil doesn't do that anymore. He did the last chicken I > think 2 years back I think. 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