I haven't gone through all of this thread, but I think this type of thing perfectly illustrates some folks "concern" over just throwing it out there. The concern being, what all IS in there?
Of course there is just the simple, "I want to hear what issues others hit with it before I throw it out there...". Of course if everyone did this, it would never get installed. If I were still running a production environment. My general policy would be to run the release at home on some test machines for at least a week or two (I would have already been running the beta (and RCs) and am right now as well as R2 but that is pretty much SP1) and when I was fairly comfortable with no real obvious weird things I would throw into an official work lab and probably on a couple of production less than critical servers and started some basic acceptance type tests. Based on that and what I wanted in the SP I would push the certification process handled by another group to get done faster or just let them take their time. The certification process is an official set of test matrixes for the OS and apps that has to be properly completed for every update and they have a team of people running through the matrices for various configs. Again, depending on how bad I needed something in the pack and how slow the certification process was going (say it got hung up on CAD type machines and I am not running CAD), I would or wouldn't wait for the final certification to push the SP. As a general rule, I wouldn't push an SP until it fully went through certification which could be months after RTM. QFEs on the other hand for specific things I have been known to have fully deployed worldwide before the integration team has looked at the package wrap I built on the fly to make the "official" wrapped package to test for the company. I apologize if I missed the gist of what is being discussed here. I am still spending all day (12+ hours) at that one other widget factory I mentioned previously and when I got home last night, I set up my MCE system to start recording TV instead of doing email. :) Got to cruise, I am hoping one 18 hour day will push us through our final blocks and I can be done and get back to my regular work life again of nice relaxing fun work. joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 SP1 RTM What I find interesting is some of the things that I know are in SP1 that *aren't* listed on that page. Specifically a huge performance improvement in the TCP stack for servers with more than a few thousand concurrent connections. -------- Roger Seielstad E-mail Geek > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave A. > Marquis > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 SP1 RTM > > Hello Eric, > > I went to the M$ Windows 2003 server page and found this Doc that lays > out all of the changes: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003 > /servicepa > ck/overview.mspx > > > You referred to SP1 having "too many changes." How did you make this > determination? > > I just read the above doc and it seems that this is more of a complete > overhaul of the OS vs. some fixes rolled up like Win XP SP1. Also, > just my opinion here, but I am in the healthcare field and everything > is mission critical as far as the directory is concerned. I personally > will let other make the jump and find all the pitfalls as MS isn't > always as forth coming in issues and fixes for those issues. > > > What is the threshold where we cross in to too many? > > When you are altering the core OS ad the way it works vs. a security > fix. > > >2) What steps will you be going through between now and when you do > >install it? > > I will cruise the newsgroups to read other accounts as the KB site > often has confusing documentation on resolving issues. I find it is > better to find the direction one needs to go by other experiences. > > >What will you do between now and deployment to give you the > confidence > >level you need to fire it up on a box and see how it goes? > > I will just give it a go as soon as it seems safe in a couple of > months. > > It is just like SP2 for win xp. If you install it, the sp2 will break > the ability to view other people's sessions on their systems. This was > a show stopper for me until I spent about a month searching for a > little know regedit that needs to be made on the users system to > restore this functionality. > > Just my 2 cents. If you have a good firewall and anti-virus > protection, things can slide for a little while as others test it out > first. > > David A. Marquis > Computer Systems Administrator > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric > Fleischman > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 SP1 RTM > > Dave can you quantify this statement please? I ask out of curiosity, > not disagreement. > > Specifically: > 1) You referred to SP1 having "too many changes." How did you make > this determination? What is the threshold where we cross in to too > many? > 2) What steps will you be going through between now and when you do > install it? What will you do between now and deployment to give you > the confidence level you need to fire it up on a box and see how it > goes? > > Interested, so we can perhaps think through ways to make that less > painful going forward. > ~Eric > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave A. > Marquis > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 2003 SP1 RTM > > I am certainly going to be waiting to install this one for a > while........ to many changes to jump right into it. > > David A. Marquis > Computer Systems Administrator > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:48 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ActiveDir] 2003 SP1 RTM > > FYI. 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