When you are complete with the /forceremoval of this errant DC and have
performed the metadata cleanup on one of the other DC's, you should be
able to seize the PDC Emulator role using the GUI or NTDSUtil.  After
that's all done, just ensure that the changes have replicated
around...then you can put the PDC on another server if you like (via a
transfer of the role).

I hope that helps!  Have a great night / weekend!

Robert Williams, MCSE NT4/2K/2K3, Security+
Infrastructure Rapid Response Engineer
Northeast Region
Microsoft Corporation
Global Solutions Support Center

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Because I believe my errant DC to by my PDC will that be a problem
demoting
it and then re-introducing it to the domain?

Here is a screen shot of my Operations Masters...
http://www.mjbdesignz.com/temp/OM.htm

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Information Technology System Specialist
Eastern Washington University


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That's what I expected. 

Choice 1 -
Mod. the registry and permit the errant DC to re-enter the replication
topology (not recommended)

Choice 2 -
Forcibly demote the errant DC, cleanup its metadata and reintroduce it
through DCpromo

Caveats -
Choice 1: lingering objects may exist
Choice 2: you'll lose any changes locally introduced to the errant DC
that
occurred after its last successful replication attempt

?

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1. Number of DCs/Domain/Sites
        3 Sites
        -> Site A has DC1 & DC2
        -> Site B DC3
        -> Site C DC4

2. OS version of DCs
        -> All DCs are running Windows 2003 Server Standard

3. Are the remaining DCs replicating successfully?
        -> According to DC diag they all passed replications
        -> They do all show in the DC diag the following:
            DC=domain,DC=ewu,DC=edu
               Last replication recieved from DC2 at 2005-03-23
02:00:40.
               WARNING:  This latency is over the Tombstone Lifetime of
60
days!
Thanks,
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Matt Brown
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Specialist Eastern Washington University




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It seems the FSMO errors you're receiving are merely symptoms of another
more significant problem; my guess is that your DCs have been ignoring
one
another for quite some time, i.e. - not replicating.

Before proceeding, can you give me some more info. -

1. Number of DCs/Domain/Sites
2. OS version of DCs
3. Are the remaining DCs replicating successfully?

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Error in PDC Operations Master

 
Well, I have quite a few weird things going on.

Roles: (both DCs in same site)
DC2 = PDC role, RID pool manager
DC1 = Infrastructure owner, schema owner, domain role owner

When I look at the Operations Masters...
-> from DC1 It shows ERROR for RID & PDC, & shows DC1 in Infrastructure 
-> from DC2 it shows ERROR for PDC, & shows DC2 for RID & DC1 for
Infrastructure

So neither DC1 or DC2 know who the PDC is. (It should be DC2)

When I use the "netdom query fsmo":
-> from DC1 it shows the roles as it should like above from DC2 it shows

-> the PDC role as DC1 rather than itself


1. When I try to manually replicate from DC2 to DC1 I get an error about
"Target Principal Name Incorrect"
After completing Article ID 288167 about resetting password (netdom
resetpwd) and trying to replicate, I get a tombstone error between the 2
domains saying it has exceeded tombstone lifetime and cannot continue.

2. When I try to manually replicate from DC1 to DC2 I get the same error
about "Target Principal Name Incorrect" but this is where I've stopped
because DC2 is supposed to be the PDC and the KB article makes it sound
like
the PW should only be reset on the non PDC machines.


All in all, my PDC seems to have amnesia and doesn't seem to remember
that
it's the PDC


Thanks,
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Matt Brown
[ SELECT * FROM IT WHERE EyeContact=True ] Information Technology System
Specialist Eastern Washington University


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What does the machine question report within its event log?

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My Dcdiag output shows the following error:
#############################
      Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
         Warning: STF2 is the PDC Owner, but is not responding to DS RPC
Bind.
         [STF2] LDAP bind failed with error 8341,
         A directory service error has occurred..
         Warning: STF2 is the PDC Owner, but is not responding to LDAP
Bind.
         Warning: STF2 is the Rid Owner, but is not responding to DS RPC
Bind.
         Warning: STF2 is the Rid Owner, but is not responding to LDAP
Bind.
         ......................... STF1 failed test KnowsOfRoleHolders
      Starting test: RidManager
         ......................... STF1 failed test RidManager
     
         Starting test: frsevent
         There are warning or error events within the last 24 hours
after
the
         SYSVOL has been shared.  Failing SYSVOL replication problems
may
cause
          Group Policy problems. 
         ......................... STF1 failed test frsevent
      Starting test: FsmoCheck
         Warning: DcGetDcName(PDC_REQUIRED) call failed, error 1355
         A Primary Domain Controller could not be located.
         The server holding the PDC role is down.
         ......................... domain failed test FsmoCheck
############################# Thanks,

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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:12 AM
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Hi,
 
My PDC just started acting up and is showing an error in the PDC box
under
Operations Master.
 
The only recent change that I can think of to the server was I
uninstalled &
re-installed the Certificate Authority 3 or 4 times, which was installed
on
the PDC.
 

Thanks,
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Matt Brown
[ SELECT * FROM IT WHERE EyeContact=True ] Information Technology System
Specialist Eastern Washington University


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