have you also changed the inheritance setting of those accounts?
#JORGE#

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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] troubleshooting object permission inheritance

not a strange question ... i looked into that when i first started the 
troubleshooting process .... Domain Users is a member of the Builtin 
Users group which is not a protected group in my environment.

Just so i have it straight:

If a user is a member of a protected group it's AdminCount attribute 
will be 1.  If said user is removed from that group it's AdminCount 
attribute will remain 1 until it is changed.  Once it is removed from 
the protected group and the attribute changed to 0 it should remain at 0

  - yes?

Back to my problem - user is not a member of a protected group and i 
can't change the AdminCount to 0 w/o it being reset to 1.

thanks so far,

john

Jorge de Almeida Pinto wrote:
> John,
> 
> OK, the users you are talking about are non-default-admin-users and
are not
> members of protected groups and never have been.
> 
> Mayba a strange question.. which groups is the domain users group a
member
> of?
> 
> #JORGE#
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 6/10/2005 10:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] troubleshooting object permission inheritance
> 
> Jorge --
> 
> I was following those threads which unfortunately did not clue me in. 
> The users that have AdminCount=1 but shouldn't have never been in a 
> protected group nor are they in a non protected group that is nested
in 
> protected group.
> 
> I have even gone so far as to remove all group memberships (besides 
> Domain Users) for a particular user, force replication, admod the 
> attribute to 0 and still it resets to 1 after an hour.
> 
> Thanks for the reply - i'd appreciate any more feedback you may have.
> 
> john
> 
> Jorge de Almeida Pinto wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>This was a thread that was discussed a few days ago. See the following
> 
> post
> 
>>from Joe where he explains some things in addition to my own post.
>>http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/msg29621.html
>>
>>HINTS:
>>* nested groups -> is that user a member of a
> 
> non-default-protected-group
> 
>>and where that non-default-protected-group IS a member of a protected
> 
> group.
> 
>>* were those users somehow members of protected groups in the past? If
> 
> they
> 
>>were and now are not the admincount will not be reset to 0
>>
>>Is this an answer to your issue?
>>
>>#JORGE#
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>Sent: 6/10/2005 8:35 PM
>>Subject: [ActiveDir] troubleshooting object permission inheritance
>>
>>Greetings --
>>
>>Using adfind to identify users who have the AdminCount attribute set
> 
> to
> 
>>1.
>>
>>Looking at the output there are users who are expected to have that
> 
> set 
> 
>>seeing that they are Domain Admins BUT i also see a handful of users
> 
> who
> 
>>are not members of a protected group.
>>
>>Using admod to set AdminCount=0 for those users temporarily sets it 
>>until the PDC mechanism runs which compares the ACLs and resets it.
>>
>>If the user isn't in a protected group then what is causing this 
>>behavior?  And i guess once i know that i can set AdminCount=0 for
> 
> them,
> 
>>permanently?
>>
>>tia,
>>
>>john
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