Jeremy-

 

We have a threed aomin (empty root) structure, they’re all in the same site as the exchange servers, but the exchange servers are all joined to one of the domains…

 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Burkes, Jeremy [Contractor]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:55 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DL Expansion Troubleshooting

 

Do you have two domains in the same physical site with Exchange servers in both domains?  If so read on as we had a very similar issue.  Hope this helps.

 

We had your 1st problem here which possibly could be related to your 2nd problem.  We have two domains in the same physical site 3 Exchange servers in one domain and 1 Exchange server in the other domain.  Whenever we sent out email particularly to our ALL HANDS DL it would sometimes fail and no one would get it, other times people would get it on the first try.  It took me the longest time to figure out why.  When a DL is “expanded” any server within the organization can technically “expand” the message unless you set the expansion server usually an Exchange server within the site does the expansion.  We found that our 1 Exchange server in the other domain was getting the expansion responsibilities sometimes (25% chance) for our Domain level Distribution List.  This server knows nothing about Domain specifics so it would fail.  As soon as we put that domain in a separate site and reduced the site replication time to 5 minutes we no longer had any problems.  One of our 3 Exchange servers in the same domain would always be responsible for the expansion of any DL we had in our domain.   I believe I eventually found a technet article on this, let me see if I can find it.

 

 I hope this helps.

 

Jeremy

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DL Expansion Troubleshooting

 

did you compare the members of the respective groups in AD on your 3 GCs? You could potentially have an inconsistency between the DCs.

 

/Guido

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Juni 2005 02:19
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] DL Expansion Troubleshooting

Apparently we have had for the past three months a persistent but not predictable issue with large and nested DL expansion. These are always DLs that are nested usually three to four levels deep and ultimately expand to tens of thousands of mailboxes. There are three global catalogs in the Exchange site, and they sit all day around 3%. No load issues, all 2k3 SP1, have been built to spec by yours truly in December I believe. Nothing weird going on with them that I can see.

 

There are two issues that crop up, one newer than the other. Issue #1 (original) is that quite simply it will take a couple tries of sending a message to a DL to get everybody to get it – some folks get it twice, some get it once. When you do a message tracking it just sort of falls off the face of the Earth as far as delivery to the folks that don’t get it twice.

 

Now issue #2 is that as of late some DLs just hang up in the submission to categorizer if you look in message tracking. Takes a couple tries to get the categorizer to categorize. Everything but the OWAs is 2000 SP3 w/ the rollup.

 

I just started looking at this today, and quite frankly I’ve gotten to the end of my short list of things to check. I cranked up diagnostic logging for DSAccess and SMTP on the gateways and the mailbox server hosting the mailbox that blasts these DLs. Haven’t found anything useful.

 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond

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