Great feedback and your points are very well taken. Thanks for the info and the clarification.
Jose :-) ------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 1:00 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir][OT] File copy with security intact with all of the options mentioned (incl. FSMT and RoboCopy) you have to be aware of the limitations of copying ACLs from source to target, which basically depends on how you've ACLed the data on your servers: If you've used Server-Local groups, the tools won't do the work for you to re-create appropriate Server-Local groups on the target machine and convert the SIDs in the ACLs where required (i.e. leave SIDs from non-server-local secprins alone and copy them as is and just replace the server-local stuff with those of the target machine). This is a considerable restriction for consolidating data - but you can also circumvent it by first doing some homework on your own and replace all server-local groups with AD domain-local groups incl. the re-ACLing on the source machine(s). I'm not trying to say that you'd always want to use this approach, as it has other challenges (token group-bloat for user's logging onto the domain etc.), but it may be a valid option depending on your environment. I only know of "non-free" tools, to do this during the file-copy / consolidation which either give you the option to create new server-local groups on the target server or to convert them to AD Domain-Local groups plus do the appropriate ReAcling of the data on the target machine. Too bad Microsoft's FSMT doesn't have this feature, which is one of the main things I don't like with it. Otherwise it's a useful tool, as it will also copy and re-create the shares etc. for you (no big deal, but...) and has a very useful integration with the DFSroot-consolidation feature of Win2003/SP1 (see Q829885 "Distributed File System update to support consolidation roots in Windows Server 2003" if you're unfamiliar with this feature). Cheers, Guido -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Freitag, 24. Juni 2005 01:13 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir][OT] File copy with security intact It's a solid tool that MCS uses for consolidation of multiple systems to one (think a bunch of file servers NT 4, Win2k, whatever), or for hardware to hardware copy after the OS is installed. Nice thing is it brings over the security and is a bit easier for the command-line challenged, or when there are a number of pick this, don't copy this, type decisions that need to be made. Rick -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:40 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir][OT] File copy with security intact Hi Rick, I have not had any need to try yet and I was just wondering if any one liked it, had any problems with it and how it compares to RoboCopy. It seems to be a take off of Fastlane's server consolidator that was written for Microsoft several years back. test Jose -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:43 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir][OT] File copy with security intact Yep - what assist do you need, or what information related to it? Happy to help.... Rick -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:14 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir][OT] File copy with security intact Has anyone had any experience using the Microsoft File Server Migration Toolkit? http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/upgrading/nt4/tooldocs/msfsc. mspx Jose --------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:01 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir][OT] File copy with security intact I don't want to seem like I am knocking Robocopy, however from my experience Robocopy also does the same thing. It will stop when a file is locked or in use. It does not copy at the block level like rsync. It is a very useful tool but beware of it's limitations. (Although the version I used was from the 2000 resource kit, so if there has been improvements I may be mistaken). Jose -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:08 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir][OT] File copy with security intact Robocopy is my FRS engine for Dfs. :) :m:dsm:cci:mvp -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webster Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:45 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir][OT] File copy with security intact > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jorge de Almeida Pinto > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir][OT] File copy with security intact > > My experience with XCOPY is that with large amounts of data > it suddendly quits. Jorge, Try XXCopy. Works great. 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