thanks!!
I agree with you on HP's controllers. I've been only working with them for 5 
years, but i've never had a failure.

we use smart array 5i/6i controllers. 



Medeiros, Jose wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> I hope you do mind if I throw in my two cents. I strongly agree with
> Charlie. HP Proliant controllers are rock solid, I really like the
> 5304 controllers and the newer replacement 6404. In answer to your
> question, yes you can have multiple raid arrays off the same
> controller, and in fact since a 5304 controller is a 4 channel
> controller it is best to separate the arrays by having each on it's
> own channel. I have had two Compaq controllers fail in my 10 years of
> supporting Proliant servers one in 1997 on a SMART 2DH Raid
> controller and the second was here at ADP with a 5304 controller. In
> both cases Compaq / HP gave excellent support and with the 5304
> controller I was able to swap it out and recover the array with out
> having to restore from backup not to mention that they also had a
> replacement delivered with in 4 hours. My only recommendation is to
> make sure you keep your controller firmware up to date.             
> 
> So with that said, running RAID 10 for your transaction logs is ideal
> and even better for your data store, however if you have a small
> environment then RAID 5 is fine as long as it is done on a hardware
> based SCSI raid controller and not in the Operating System.   
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jose Medeiros
> Former Vice President and Postmaster NTEA
> MCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT
> www.ntea.net
> www.tvnug.org
> www.sfntug.org
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charlie Kaiser
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:09 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] exchange upgrade (OT)
> 
> 
> We use a DL380 with 6 drives for our E2K3 server. One RAID 1 set for
> OS/Logs, one 3-drive RAID 5 set for the DBs, and a hot spare available
> to both arrays.
> Given our E2K3 org size (single server, DB of around 17gb, under 200
> mailboxes, low PF usage), this setup works fine.
> We only use one controller. The HP controllers have been pretty
> durable 
> for us. We've had issues with system boards or backplanes, but the
> controllers have not given us any flak. You have to balance cost and
> probability of failure with the desire for a second controller card.
> I'd 
> base it on my SLA and uptime needs for E2K3. Eliminating a single
> point 
> of failure (as in a single controller) is desirable, but in the end,
> if 
> you lose one of your controllers, you're still going to go down for a
> while.
> If I had a larger E2K3 org and needed more drives (as in RAID 10 or
> 0+1), I would consider the DAS cabinet that HP offers along with a
> second controller. We use them for some of our other systems and they
> have been fine.
> I seem to remember that the price point between the DAS cabinet +
> DL380 
> vs a larger server with more internal storage worked in favor of the
> DAS 
> cabinet... That was over a year ago, though.
> We looked at going to a SAN at the time and decided that SAN
> architecture and cost was well outside the scope of an E2K3 migration
> project.
> 
> 
> **********************
> Charlie Kaiser
> MCSE, CCNA
> Systems Engineer
> Essex Credit / Brickwalk
> 510 595 5083
> **********************
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:50 AM
>> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
>> Subject: [ActiveDir] exchange upgrade (OT)
>> 
>> I'm moving to exchange 2k3 and i'm starting off with a fresh
>> new server
>> 
>> We use HP proliant DL's here.
>> 
>> My questions are -
>> I want to use raid 0+1 or raid 10(deoending on price) for the
>> trans logs.
>> I want to keep the exchange binaries and db seperate from the
>> logs on a raid 5.
>> 
>> To do this, do i need 2 raid controllers or can i just do this with
>> 1? alos the proliants seem to only support 6 drives and for this
>> solution i will need at least 7.
>> Has anyone had experince with doing this on proliants with
>> the smart array 6i controller?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot
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