IPHelper is enabled on your routers, which is allowing broadcasts. If that's the case, then yes - this should help to resolve the issue. It might be the end-all, but it's certainly in the right direction.
Rick -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Benway Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 1:08 PM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood I think the machine that kept being elected as master browser was a windows 2000 SP4 workstation that had been up for 68 days. I changed the PDC emulator to the DC that has the IP helper pointed to it and that became the browser master. I think that will fix the problem. Thanks,jb -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:07 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood The pecking order is based on the newest version of OS, and SP1 trumps (wins) over the Gold RTM of the OS. So, in this example, Win98 wins over Win95, Windows XP wins over Win98, and Windows XP SP2 wins over all of the workstation OS's. BTW, SAMBA plays in this arena as well, but I don't recall off-hand where it falls in the precedence. Now, if you toss servers into the mix, Windows XP, by this rule, wins over Windows 2000 Server. However, it's considered best practice to have designated servers (when available) to take the Browse Master / Backup roles. This would entail disabling Windows XP from being able to initiate an election or winning the election, thereby ensuring that Windows 2000 Server will win the roles. Registry keys are available to 'lock in' servers (or workstations, for that matter) into the roles. Regardless, this is a reasonable quick blurb on some quick fixes and resolves for typical problems. http://www.tek-tips.com/faqs.cfm?fid=3728 Rick -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:43 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood Don't the old client OS's (like Win95) automatically try to be Browse Master? Do you have any old computers hooked up to the LAN? Mike Thommes -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Benway Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:08 PM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood That's what I was worried about. For some reason, no other workstations are showing up as backup browsers. jb -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:22 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood each subnet should have 1 master browser. usually there should be 1 backup browser for every 15 pc's on the subnet. I believe you get the browse list when going to net neighborhood or doing a net view froma backup browser which in turn got it from the master browser. the only reason that pc became a master browser, I think, is because it is the most up to date(sp'ed,hot fixed) os on that subnet so it keeps wining browser elections. Thats my thought. i'd wait till someone more knowldgeble comes around before listening to me. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Benway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:05 PM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood Ok, I have can see server when I do a net view now. Here's what I did. I used browstat tic on that subnet to stop the master browser. Then I did a browstat el to force an election. That same computer became the master browser again, with no backup servers, but atleast now it list the servers when I do the net view. One last question, should there be any workstations listed as backup servers other than the machine that is the master browser? Thank you again for everyone's help. jb -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Benway Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:57 PM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood Interesting, The reg value was already set on the computer that reports as the master browser on that subnet and browstat sta only list the one computer, no other computers are running as backups. I tried to force an election with browstat, but it didn't seem to do anything. Maybe I should see if I can reboot the machine in question. Any more ideas? Thanks,jb -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:50 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood Go to that pc and open regedit and change the value of this key to "false"- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Browser\Parameters this will stop that machine from trying tp participate in browser elections and become a master browser for your subnet. Also, before doing this, i would run browstat from the support tools on that machine to see if you get any more info or errors. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Benway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:33 AM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood Ok, browmon showed me which computer on that segment is the master browser. But I'm not sure what the next step would be. Thank you jb -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:58 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood Network neighborhood relies on the browser service. From your description it sounds like you likely have a problem with the master browser for that segment. That being said tracking down these failures can be time consuming and difficult. I would suggest using browmon from the resource kit and trying to find out who the master browser is to start. Here is a description of how the browser service builds its lists: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188001 Thanks, -Steve ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jason Benway Sent: Tue 7/26/2005 8:27 AM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood Starting about a week ago, one of our subnets stopped being able to view any of the servers though network neighborhood. All of the servers are in a different subnet than the subnet with the problem. We only have one WINS server and the computer with problems are pointing to that server. The workstations can ping the servers by name and a start > run > \\servername works. These are all windows XP SP1 and SP2. Thanks,jb -------------------------- Jason Benway [EMAIL PROTECTED] GHSP 1250 S.Beechtree Grand Haven, MI 49417 616-847-8474 Fax: 616-850-1208 Required space inevitably expands to exceed available space... 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