From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/17/2005 10:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] cloning DC's
Eric,
I just want to be sure that you are not equating
backup with cloning. I am
afraid that the OP may take your "eat cake"
statement to mean that you are
agreeing with the cloning proposal. Install
from media was not made for
cloning. Unless I am wrong again, the install
from media is not done (nor is
it supposed to be done) on a cloned image of
existing DCs. "Cloned" in this
case means something like Ghost image of a DC
taken from who knows when. This
is completely different from a backup of a
DC, backup being NTBackup or
similar.
So, I am not very sure that he
is not going to be eating some very stale
cakes if he reads you
literally.
Sincerely,
Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M
MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know
IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you
were worried about
Yesterday?
-anon
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Eric Fleischman
Sent: Wed
8/17/2005 9:52 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] cloning DC's
There is a way to have your cake and eat
it too, however.
Take a backup of the DC, then use the install from media
(IFM) feature
to dcpromo more machines in to the environment using the backup
taken as
a seed for the dataset. This will allow you to rapidly bring up new
DCs
without having to re-source all of the info yet still not do damage
to
your environment (with the definition of "do damage" left out
for
brevity, as it has been covered on this DL previously if memory
serves
me correctly).
IFM was added in WS2003 to address scenarios
such as this.
~Eric
-----Original Message-----
From:
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On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:57 PM
To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] cloning DC's
Tom
-
Regardless of the scenario and how it's done - you never, never,
never,
clone DCs. This will lead to very bad things - possibly
including the
appearance of the Anti-Christ, opening of Black Holes, ABBA
coming back
to
prominence.
Do NOT do this. Do NOT allow IBM
to do it. Period.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From:
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On Behalf Of Tom Kern
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:56 PM
To:
activedirectory
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] cloning DC's
I went back and
i saw B. Shirley's remarks on cloning dc's.
I'm wondering if this applies to
my senario below-
cloning a DC with Disk Image and sysprep and creating
new DC's that
way?
Is this very very bad? is there an article or paper
explaining why?
or anyone care to explain why.
or is this
ok?
thanks. sorry to harp but these AD consultants from IBM want to
go
this route tomorrow and I'm thinking its not a good idea for
some
reason but I'd like to be sure before i bring it up.
Thanks
again
On 8/17/05, Tom Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know
i read this thread before but i can't seem to find it.
>
> we are
creating a new forest root and the IBM consultants here created
> the
first root dc and now they want to clone it using Disk Image and
> sysprep
to create the other DC's in the root.
>
> I think i heard this is a
bad idea. Am I right?
>
> I can't seem to find any article on this
but I do remember this being
> spoken of on the list and I don't remeber
what the conculsion was.
>
> thanks
>
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