Yes. I can promise action immediately though. I've seperated my action plan into 4 phases ...
Now: cleanup of crap, I've found 4 events to remove, and 1 that must be modified on a more immediate time scale. Emprace: re-write and re-vet content for all ESE/ESENT/NTDS ISAM events, because it could be way better. Extend: Figure out how to take the Event Help System forward a bit, this is internal improvement stuff, process improvement, DB improvement, etc ... NextGen: Figure out if there are any longer range improvements we can make. I've started 4 threads on it, I've been writing up thoughts all morning, this is absolutely going to sap my day of real work ... They will rue the day, they laid down crappy events help for ESE. I've decided to take an interest in what they do. Like Dean, usually when I take an interest in you, you become more unhappy. (w/ lots of love Dean ;) In fact 2 out of my 4 significant GFs required therapy afterwards. Cheers, -BrettSh G-Door Operator #7 On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Michael B. Smith wrote: > Does your offer apply to Exchange ESE as well as ESENT/NTDS ISAM? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Shirley > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:13 AM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: [ActiveDir] OMG, the most aweful ESE event info ever!!! ... > > > In the event view, you know how you can click the "fwlink" page to get > help and support text for any given event? > > So I found the "support and help" text (below) for EventID 101 (farther > below) for Windows NTDS ISAM and for general ESENT, and it's like about > as close to 100% wrong as you can get. It's talking about Restore.env, > and the Information Store, Windows now thinks it's Exchange? Was it > just like make stuff up day at work or something? WTF. Does the > internet / network produce ANY valid content anymore? I think the new > quote should be, "It must be false, I read it on the internet". > > Anyway, I've gotten a hold of the people responsible for this database, > we're having words ... I'll fix this. > > OMG, I just found the text for Event ID 102 "%1 (%2) %3The database > engine started a new instance(%4)." ... and it's help text is worse than > event ID 101's text. Event ID 102's help text: > There is only one Jet database engine, ESE.dll, per > server. However, there can be one instance of Jet running per > storage group. Event 102 signifies that an instance of Jet has > started and indicates which instance has started. > > And oh my gosh I just thought someone could be trying to act on this > text on like an Exchange or SBS servers ... I'm nateous, I'm actually > wretching over this find ... > > SOOO Why don't you guys tell us about this shtuff? Seriously. You guys > should hold your vendors in to higher responsibility. Comments anyone? > > joe, surely you must have a comment? Tragically, I'll bet it is a > waste, I'll bet no one uses the system anymore. > > I give uou permission to email me about any ESE event text and fwlinks > that suck, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only > email that mail, about this stuff. Well, give me a week or two to take > out the trash on the fwlinks. BTW, I can't promise a reply or speedy > fixes, or anything. > > Oh in case it isn't clear the ESE events are under, ESE (for Exchange, > SPS, Windows Desktop Search), ESENT (for General Windows), and for > Active Directory the events are categorized under "NTDS ISAM". > > This is going to be a great Friday, i can just tell ... > BrettSh > G-Door Operator #7, > but currently serving as Janitor (of the "Event Help Text" system) > > > Details if you click that fwlink, in the event box of NTDS ISAM | ESENT > Eevent ID 101 ... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > Details > Product: Windows Operating System > ID: 101 > Source: ESENT > Version: 5.2 > Symbolic Name: STOP_ID > Message: %1 (%2) %3The database engine stopped. > > Explanation > The extensible storage engine database engine stopped. > > Possible causes include: > > - An online restoration failed. There may be missing log files on the > computer or in an online restoration, or there may be old log files > that are out of sequence with the log that is mentioned in the > Restore.env file. > - A database could not be loaded. The directory where the database or > logs exist might not have the correct permissions assigned to it in > order to load the store. > - An information store was unloaded. > - There might be file-level virus-scanning software running against the > log file directory. > > > User Action > To troubleshoot the problem, check the Application log and the System > log to determine the exact sequence of related events leading up to this > event. > > For more information about this event, see article Q274321 in the > Microsoft Knowledge Base. > > --- > > Currently there are no Microsoft Knowledge Base articles available for > this specific error or event message. For information about other > support options you can use to find answers online, see > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > > > This is the actual ESENT EventID 101: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > Event Type: Information > Event Source: ESENT > Event Category: General > Event ID: 101 > Date: 6/28/2005 > Time: 2:52:49 PM > User: N/A > Computer: BRETTSH-RG > Description: > ESENTUTL (3044) The database engine stopped. > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
