Not at all. Read the post I actually replied to carefully, I was - rather flippantly I admit - correcting the same misunderstanding that you're presuming to correct me on.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of CHIANESE, DAVID Sent: Thu 06/10/2005 21:27 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Restore Problem Now your comparing apples to oranges... Virtual PC is not the same as Virtual Server. The beginning of the thread refers to Virtual Server and VmWare, both let you create virtual machines. Virtual server from Microsoft DOES support running servers in production: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=64DB845D-F7A3-4 209-8ED2-E261A117FC6B&displaylang=en <snip> Running domain controllers in virtual machines is best suited for test and pre-production piloting environments. With strict adherence to the requirements described in this document, domain controllers running in virtual machines can also be used in a production environment. </snip> Straight from M$. VmWare also allows you to run a virtual machine in production. They were ahead of the virtualization curve and M$ so naturally M$ will "Not support" virtualized servers not using their own Virtual Server product. I happen to be a fan of VmWare as they are not OS centric to the Microsoft platform but support any OS platform. It is also a more mature product with many more features and capabilities than Virtual Server from Microsoft. Regards, David Chianese -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob MOIR Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:40 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Restore Problem Running a production server in Virtual PC isn't supported, Period. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Parris Sent: Thu 06/10/2005 18:24 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Restore Problem What is not supported is an image restored and running in a Virtual PC. _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Renouf Sent: 06 October 2005 16:04 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Restore Problem That article might not have been caught yet, support for DC's in Virtual Server is a relatively new thing, but it is supported. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=64db845d-f7a3-4 209- 8ed2-e261a117fc6b <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=64db845d-f7a3- 4209 -8ed2-e261a117fc6b&displaylang=en> &displaylang=en That doesn't help SBS much though since Exchange is not yet supported in Virtual Server. Phil On 10/6/05, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <stupid question alert> Okay so unless you are insane SBS.. images of your DCs are ixnay. What does Sun, Linux, Mac or any other competing Server OS do in their world to ensure the Kingdom easily and quickly comes back up? <yeah I know they don't have AD but they have to have some competing glue, right?> What have they done if anything? How to detect and recover from a USN rollback in Windows Server 2003: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=875495 That KB is interesting as it clearly indicates that having a DC in a Virtual Server environment is not supported... yet we SBSers have gotten word that once Exchange 2003 sp2 supports Vserver all of the parts of the 'standard' box will be supported in a virtual environment. Brett Shirley wrote: >If you have any replicas of those servers, when you restore those >VMWare images, you will have corrupted your forest during restore. > >-BrettSh [msft] > >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >rights. > > >On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Carroll Frank USGR wrote: > > > >>I am working my way down the VMWare path also for my ultimate DR "ace >>in the hole". The environment is a TLD with 4 child domains. I am >>planning on running a single VMWare server that has virtual DCs for >>all 5 domains. I am going to peel off a dedicated site/vlan and put >>the physical VMWare server and all of the DC virt servers in that >>site. None of the virtual DCs are going to be GCs. The reason for the >>dedicated site is so I can keep people from using them for validation >>in production. >> >>Once I have them running, I plan to use the VM scripting to gracefully >>shut them down once a day and then shoot the image file of the >>shutdown DC off to tape, which then goes off-site. After the backup >>completes I then restart the virtual servers. >> >>This plays into the different hardware scenario since I can use VMWare >>to abstract the hardware. >> >>Of course, this whole process is the backup to the normal system state >>backup of all my backbone DCs. >> >>FWIW - Frank >> >>________________________________ >> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coleman, Hunter >>Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:37 PM >>To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Restore Problem >> >> >>You will still need to abandon the snapshot/image approach. Go to >>http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ and search >>for "usn rollback". You can get the same information by searching >>support.microsoft.com, but without the colorful and enlightening >>commentary that the list provides. >> >>Hunter >> >> >> > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
