Title: Schema Updates
I understand your point of view completely, I have the same hang up about anything made by CA. (Not on my network.)
Unity really depends on your use. The things that Cisco has changed make it awesome to use if you have an AD environment and a Cisco VOIP system. Pricey to be sure, but IMHO it can't be beat.
YMMV


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:49 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Updates

Entirely your option. :) Windows 3.11 and Windows NT are really not the same product.
 
Note I am not saying I won't use cisco routers because they sucked 12 years ago. As someone else pointed out, software isn't cisco's ball of wax. There is obviously a little bit of a scary point there when you consider though that the IOS is software...
 
Also as you mentioned, it wasn't created or even modified much by cisco. So I don't expect it is much different now than what I saw.  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:37 PM
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And I will never run Windows because 3.11 just wasn't that great at networking. ;-)


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Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:42 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Schema Updates

Being the best available doesn't make something good and doesn't need a lot of work. :o)
 
It just means it is better than the other sucky alternatives.
 
I haven't seen unity in years but when I last saw it, it had me swearing about how bad it was. I seem to recall saying something along the lines of that will never be in any AD I ever manage.
 
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 10:04 AM
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Not sure why you don't like Unity, it's the best unified messaging app there is right now. Actually has been for over 5 years. I believe that the reason it;s as good as it is, is that it was not created or even modified much by Cisco, they simply bought a really good product and left it be for the most part.
As for the schema updates, it didn't work. We made the registry change and it did work. I don't see how that would be tied to the app as no changes were made there. But who knows.


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Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 7:27 PM
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Hmmm.  I need to think about that again.  I think I only saw this behavior in the lab where all the servers were upgraded instead of wipe and replace.  In production, we upgraded initially then did a replacement effort later.

 

More to the point, UGH Cisco Unity… I wish to Christ they’d stick to hardware and stop venturing into software…


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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:03 PM
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Was it maybe the app itself disallowing the update? Did you try to just modify the schema to see if it would work? Say change the rangeupper of cn or something like that and then change it back. Something innocuous. 

 


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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:17 PM
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Yep, same here.  I think upgraded scenarios have this.

 


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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:57 AM
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Upgraded.

 


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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:38 AM
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Upgraded to 2003 or fresh install?

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:12 AM
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I just did this last week to install Cisco Unity and I still had to enable schema updates in Windows 2003 even though the user was in Schema Admins. I was under the same impression as Travis, but after enabling updating in the registry it worked fine.

 


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Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:03 PM
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Did you work this out Travis?

 

If not, I would recommend pulling up the sysinternal registry and file monitors as well as tracing the AD  calls.

 


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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:59 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Schema Updates

Hi,

I am having some problems updating the schema for Avaya Unified Messaging. It is my thinking that in Windows 2003 the schema is already enabled for updates as long as you are in the Schema Admins group. In Windows 2000 you had to enable the Schema to be updated. Am I correct or misguided?

Thanks!


Travis Abrams

 

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