Rick - I was replying to your assertion:
"Miss one or two backups and that volume that holds your log files might experience this issue with no fault of the admin at all." An admin may not be at fault because a backup doesn't occur, with that I agree. However, an admin not knowing that the scheduled backups did not occur and not monitoring that the log volume sufficiently to know that it is running out of space is very much at fault. I didn't say anything about beating; that would solely be at your discretion. As to my George Carlin remark, it was intended to be sarcasticly humorous; I apologize if it missed the mark in your perception, and to anyone else on this list who might have been offended by it. I'm an eight-or-nine-year Exchange MVP, and a senior technology consultant for a large multinational technology corporation. I joined this list because a fellow Exchange MVP recommended it as being THE place to discuss Active Directory. Nice to meet you. Who are you? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on NTFS volumes Ed - With all due respect, both posts that you've made in response to this thread have been negative (George Carlin hasn't written anything original... Blah, blah...) and the fact that I mention that I should beat my admin because of missing a backup. How I choose to treat my employees is my business. I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to defend myself to you. Please. If you have nothing of value to add - don't respond. If you want to be a valued member of the list - try being nice. Or, if it's just me you don't like - filter me out of your list. I really don't appreciate the off-handed, single thought retorts. Who ARE you, anyway? Rick -- Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or warranties ... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 11:28 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on NTFS volumes The admin is not at fault because he wasn't aware that the backup didn't complete? You're an awfully forgiving boss. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:04 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on NTFS volumes Work with Exchange much? Miss one or two backups and that volume that holds your log files might experience this issue with no fault of the admin at all. (Well, except for the fact that your backup system didn't page the person in charge to notify it didn't run... Or, that person chose not to respond.) Regardless... Poo-poo happens. At least, now they know. Rick [msft] -- Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or warranties ... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:30 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption on NTFS volumes Not dumb for Microsoft.... dumb for the Admin to get the drive in that condition and need a KB to wack them upside the head. At the end of the day... it's my responsibility for my network. I won't be complaining to Microsoft that they didn't warn me that bad things might happen if I don't keep nice breathing room on my drives. Rick Kingslan wrote: >Hmmm. I guess I see this in a different light. In my "new, improved" >view of the way that Microsoft communicates things, no - it doesn't >seem to be very dumb at all. The statement and the KB, that is. > >At this moment, I'm watching George Carlin's new HBO special. He >relates that he's always interested when it's flood season in the >Midwest. The same people that got flooded out last year get flooded >out this year, repaint, re-carpet and move back in. > >Next season - it will be the same thing. They just won't understand >that if they live on the flood plain, you can't complain that Grandma >is floating down the river with a canary on her head. > >That's why we say things like: > >"A volume is full or almost full." your NTFS just MIGHT have problems. > >Because there are just those same folks on the Midwest flood plain that >will call PSS really upset that their full or almost full NTFS drive >has a problem. > >I'm not saying that the people that call are stupid. I am saying that >most Insurance policies and contracts, as well as EULAs - have a ton of >words and verbiage that only the well trained lawyer can understand >because folks are just.... well, litigious. And, you have to address >the obvious because in segments of the population - the obvious - isn't. > >Rick [msft] >-- >Posting is provided "AS IS", and confers no rights or warranties ... > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, >CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] >Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:08 AM >To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] FYI: MS-KBQ909360 - Potential file corruption >on NTFS volumes > >Is it me or is that a dumb KB? > >"A volume is full or almost full." > >Yeah data will start getting screwed up when you have that situation. >In SBSland we lose our CAL licenses and other such fun things on a too >tight drive. > > > >Almeida Pinto, Jorge de wrote: > > > >>FYI >> >>Potential file corruption problem on NTFS volumes during extensive >>stress >> >> >tests in Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 > > >>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;909360 >> >>Cheers, >>Jorge >> >> >>This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended >> >> >recipient(s) only. 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