What Ed wrote.

To add on: See KB 822179 and the proper method of "cheating" would be to
use the swing server method, also known as the "Ed Crowley Server Move
Method" for most of the last decade, to move the Exchange stores to
another server and remove Exchange from the DC/server, even if
temporarily.

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[MVP]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 6:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Rename domain - DC with Exchange installed

It's not supported to run dcpromo on an Exchange server.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Rename domain - DC with Exchange installed

I guess if I had to do this, I'd "cheat".  Create a new DC, demote the
Exchange/DC box to just Exchange, then do the rename.  That's assuming
we're not talking about SBS (I didn't see that in the original post) and
that just demoting the DC without a replacement was not feasible.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Rename domain - DC with Exchange installed

See follow up note regarding reading comprehension level on a Monday.

Michael B. Smith wrote:
> Those still agree with me.
>
> You can't change the name of a DC while Exchange is installed on it.
> This means you can't rename a domain if Exchange is installed on a DC.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
> Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:09 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Rename domain - DC with Exchange installed
>
> Okay so maybe that was a lousy link
>
> Download details: Microsoft Exchange Server Domain Rename Fixup
> (XDR-Fixup):
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=24B47D4A-C4B9
> -4
> 031-B491-29839148A28C&displaylang=en
>
> Exchange for Experts: Be The Master Of Your Domain Rename With 
> Exchange
> -- TechNet Magazine, Spring 2005:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2005/05/DomainRenam
> e/
> default.aspx
>
> SP1 also contains a number of new tools for Exchange 2003. The 
> following are available as separate downloads.
>
>     * /Exchange Domain Rename Fixup:/ Repairs Exchange Server
attributes
>       in Active Directory after using the Windows Server 2003 domain
>       rename tool
>
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith wrote:
>   
>> I don't see anything in that article that disagrees with what I said.
>>
>> You can't change the name of a DC while Exchange is installed on it.
>>
>> In fact, the article you quote specifically agrees with me:
>>
>> Exchange must not be installed on domain controllers To use the 
>> domain
>>     
>
>   
>> rename operation, Exchange must not be installed on any domain 
>> controllers (if Exchange is loaded on a DC deinstal Exchange from it)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
>> Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:01 PM
>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Rename domain - DC with Exchange installed
>>
>> Actually not true, this changed in Exchange SP1...now that said..... 
>> we STILL do not recommend renaming in SBSland because of Sharepoint. 
>> That is what gets totally screwed these days with a domain rename on 
>> our boxes. [yes a MVP tried it, Exchange made the trip just fine, 
>> Sharepoint did not]
>>
>> Domain Rename - Rename a Windows 2003 Forest with Exchange 2003
>> installed:
>> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Domain-Rename.html
>>
>> Stupid question alert though....why the need for the rename in the 
>> first place? Now granted, this is our funky space down here but...the

>> name of the domain is totally meaningless and you should name your 
>> servers to not need renaming is our philosophy in SBSland.
>>
>> Bottom line ...yes... on a normal server, no on SBS.
>>
>> I have seen several KBs that point to ... if I remember right.... 
>> public folder wackoness after a domain rename that needed some
>>     
> hotfixes.
>   
>> Michael B. Smith wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> It is not supported to change the name of a server on which Exchange

>>> is installed.
>>>
>>> Thus you can't change the name of a DC while Exchange is installed 
>>> upon it. Exchange will break.
>>>
>>> For more information: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842116
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve 
>>> Sorenson
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:38 AM
>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>> Subject: [ActiveDir] Rename domain - DC with Exchange installed
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> We have a Windows 2003 SP1 server with Exchange 2003 installed. I 
>>> need
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>>> to change the domain name. Doing some reading up on the subject, I'm

>>> getting conflicting information on whether this is even possible in 
>>> our case. For the record, this is our DC (and the only DC in the
>>> domain) and it has Exchange installed on it.
>>>
>>> I've read the documentation that MS has available on the two tools 
>>> for
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>>> domain renaming and am not clear on whether I need to first 
>>> uninstall
>>>       
>
>   
>>> Exchange to do this.
>>>
>>> Has anyone here done this successfully without uninstalling Exchange

>>> first?
>>>
>>> TIA for any pointers!
>>>
>>> Steve
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