Isn't it best practice to set the entire domain time policy at the domain
level (Default Domain Policy) instead of trying to set every machine or
every OU separately? 

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge de
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:56 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Time Service

 

why are you using the GPO to configure the time service on the PDC? Why not
just configure the PDC with the commands and info provided?

Jorge

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Douglas M. Long
Sent: Wed 2005-12-28 18:42
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Time Service

OK, so then I am still not synching with an external time source. I have
followed the steps, and still I get the same thing. I can not figure out
what it causing it to not use the server I specify. I am guessing it has
something to do with some group policy setting? Do I need to block
inheritance on the default domain controller GPO and have different
settings?

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:03 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Time Service

 

To keep things simple, doing

 

Net time /setsntp:pool.ntp.org

 

then

 

net stop w32time& net start w32time

 

and 

 

net time /querysntp

 

(ALL at the PDC-E) should give acceptable result. If it doesn't, then
something at the firewall may be blocking 123

 

 

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT

Microsoft MVP - Directory Services

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Yesterday?  -anon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge de
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:49 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Time Service

 

w32tm /monitor

 

dc1.domain.com *** PDC *** [10.100.110.12]:

    ICMP: 0ms delay.

    NTP: +0.0000000s offset from dc1.domain.com

        RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<THIS IS THE
TIME SERVER THE PDC IS POINTING TO

 

 

A PDC that is not configured with an external time source:(default after
install)

C:\>w32tm /monitor
rootdc001.ADCORP.LAN *** PDC *** [10.0.0.1]:
    ICMP: 0ms delay.
    NTP: +0.0000000s offset from rootdc001.ADCORP.LAN
        RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]

 

A PDC that is configured with an external time source

C:\>w32tm /monitor
PDC.DOMAIN.LOCAL *** PDC *** [172.16.1.1]:
    ICMP: 0ms delay.
    NTP: +0.0000000s offset from PDC.DOMAIN.LOCAL
        RefID: (unknown) [internet IP]

 

A PDC that is configured to sync with its own internal clock

C:\>w32tm /monitor
rootdc001.ADCORP.LAN *** PDC *** [10.0.0.1]:
    ICMP: 0ms delay.
    NTP: +0.0000000s offset from rootdc001.ADCORP.LAN
        RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]

 

In addition to what Ulf said:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/20/111.aspx

 

Cheers,

Jorge

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Douglas M. Long
Sent: Wed 2005-12-28 16:30
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Time Service

I have Run w32tm /config /update /syncfromflags:MANUAL /manualpeerlist:
"navobs1.oar.net" and also verified
HKLM\System\CCS\Services\w32time\Parameters

Type=NTP is set. I stopped and started w32time, and still the PDC-E points
to itself. Or at least that is what I think it is saying. Isn't LOCL in the
following telling me that it is looking at itself instead of an external
time source?

 

 

w32tm /monitor

 

dc1.domain.com *** PDC *** [10.100.110.12]:

    ICMP: 0ms delay.

    NTP: +0.0000000s offset from dc1.domain.com

        RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B.
Simon-Weidner
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:58 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Time Service

 

Hi Douglas,

 

To configure domain members and DCs to use the default behavior, either

 

Run w32tm /config /update /syncfromflags:DOMHIER

 

Or check the following registrykey

 

HKLM\System\CCS\Services\w32time\Parameters

Type=NT5DS

 

To configure a server to use a NTP-Timesource (what you want to do on the
PDC-E of the forest root):

 

Run w32tm /config /update /syncfromflags:MANUAL /manualpeerlist:"fqdn1 fqdn2
ip1"

 

Or check the following registrykeys

HKLM\System\CCS\Services\w32time\Parameters

Type=NTP

NTPServer="fqdn1 fqdn2 ip1"

 

To configure a server to trust his BIOS-Clock (test-environment) or which is
getting it's time from a 3rd party soft- or hardware attached locally check
the following reg-keys:

 

HKLM\System\CCS\Services\w32time\Parameters

Type=NoSync

ReliableTimeSource = 1 (reg_dword)

 

 

Afterwards I'd restart w32time using

net stop w32time && net start w32time

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Time Service

 

I have read the Time Service white paper from Microsoft and am still
confused. I have set the default domain GPO to use NT5DS under Configure
Windows NTP Client, and set an external time server (navobs1.oar.net,0x1)
for NTPServer. I have also set Enable Windows NTP Server to enabled. There
are no other time related GPOs set in the domain. I was under the assumption
that with that setting my PDC emulator (DC1) should be synching with
navobs1.oar.net,0x1 and the other DC synchs with the PDC emulator, and then
all clients synch to the closest DC. When I run a w32tm /monitor from the
either DC or from any clients, I get the following.

 

dc1.domain.com *** PDC *** [10.100.110.12]:

    ICMP: 0ms delay.

    NTP: +0.0000000s offset from dc1.domain.com

        RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]

dc2.domain.com [10.100.110.13]:

    ICMP: 0ms delay.

    NTP: +0.0226641s offset from dc1.domain.com

        RefID: dc1.domain.com [10.100.110.12]

 

When I run it from a client:

 

dc1.domain.com *** PDC *** [10.100.110.12]:

    ICMP: 0ms delay.

    NTP: +0.0000000s offset from dc1.domain.com

        RefID: 'LOCL' [76.79.67.76]

dc2.domain.com [10.100.110.13]:

    ICMP: 8ms delay.

    NTP: +0.0342476s offset from dc1.domain.com

        RefID: dc1.domain.com [10.100.110.12]

 

What I am seeing is that everything is working except DC1 is not synching
with an external time server. Is that correct, or am I reading that wrong?
If it isn't synching with an external time source, what setting am I
missing?

 

 

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