E-Bitz - SBS MVP the Official Blog of the SBS "Diva" : Patching Webcast
for your viewing pleasure:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2005/12/22/79673.aspx
At the end of this SBS usergroup webcast is a demo of WSUS and then a
demo of Shavlik.
Click, deploy patches now, reboot. Rescan. Patching done. Confirmed.
Yes, the GUI is way easier IMHO.
WSUS takes 24 hours to sync, then for clients to check in, then you have
to approve if you don't want auto approve...then the workstation have to
do their thing...then you have to view the reports....that takes time.
Rocky Habeeb wrote:
Curses!
I don't want to do all that!!! ;-)
I'm a gui guy, because I don't have the scripting skills yet. So are you
saying Shavlik is more (and/or easier) gui than WSUS? And I'm not into
annoyance either so what are the big annoyances here in WSUS versus Shavlik?
Seriously.
I'm trying to learn here.
Thanks.
RH
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:08 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Patch Management
After I test on a test network at home, after I apply them to my 'canary
boxes' and check and make sure everything is fine, after I watch the
chatter on the patchmangement.org listserve and google on the newsgroups
for the KB article number to see if everything looks good and check my
own SBS newsgroup because someone has already installed it during the
lunch hour or middle of the day....
That's 'instant' gratification 'after' a patch testing process and
change management process.
Once that patch is 'approved' I want it on the boxes as fast as I can.
The tool is irrelevant. Pick one and get it set up. I like gui. And
WSUS annoys me.
It's the risk analysis and change management process that is the hard part.
Rocky Habeeb wrote:
So ...
You reboot on the fly ...
And I'm sure everybody is fine with that ...
And everything is tested ...
And you can promise all your users that none of their 700 apps are going to
crash ...
Just asking, because if that's the promise of Shavlik, then I'll stop
working on trying to get my WSUS system up.
RH
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:43 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Patch Management
Sorry one other thing.. when I want to have instant gratification and
control... I patch ..right then and force a reboot of all
workstations/servers, etc. There's no waiting for them to check in, or
scripting a faster checkin [horrors] to get a faster patch deployment.
Also it had SBS specific patches way before WSUS did.
I'm a gui gal....what do you expect?
When I want things patched and patched right now...and not within the
next # number of hours... a push solution is way better than a pull in
my opinion.
Za Vue wrote:
We tested on wkstations and servers and decided it was not worth the
hefty price. My opinion is that it is too slow, tested on a duel CPU
P4 system. (Personally I think the GUI is ugly) We ran into firewall
issues as well. I have a dedicated W23K server for WSUS, no problem.
Microsoft workstations, Microsoft servers, why not make everything
Microsoft? Makes life easier in my environment. Now if I can only get
rid of those damn Macs.
Z.V.
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:
Shavlik runs from my Desktop.
Za Vue wrote:
Pretty much all patch management applications require a server.
-Z.V.
Pohlschneider, Chris wrote:
Does anyone have recommendations for patch management software that
could be
installed on a desktop type system to manage a network with 120
nodes for
updates and patches. I was looking at WSUS, but the requirements
are that
you need a server OS, plus the minimum requirements were pretty stout.
Thanks in advance for recommendations!!
Chris Pohlschneider
Network Administrator
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