To add my €0,02...

Just before I went to DEC I played with several versions of 
SFU and the upgrade to R2 and compared that to the fresh 
install of R2. Until now these are my findings. I have not 
yet tried a solution..

I did the following tests...

Installed SFU 3.5 and updated the schema. After that I 
upgraded the schema for R2 --> No issues Installed SFU 3.0 
and updated the schema. After that I upgraded the schema for 
R2 --> No issues Installed SFU 2.0 and updated the schema. 
After that I upgraded the schema for R2 --> well... See below

I did not test SFU version upgrades starting from SFU 2.0 
and then upgrade to R2, but I guess that the problem will 
remain in that situation.

SFU 2.0 introduces the following attributes:
GidNumber - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.71 
UidNumber - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.70 
gecos - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.97 
loginShell - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.72 
shadowLastChange - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.92
shadowMin - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.93
shadowMin - attributeSyntax = 2.5.5.5
shadowMax - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.90
shadowWarning - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.91 
shadowWarning - attributeSyntax = 2.5.5.5
shadowInactive - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.89
shadowExpire - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.88
shadowFlag - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.87
memberUid - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.86
memberNisNetgroup - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.79 
memberNisNetgroup - attributeSyntax = 2.5.5.1
ipServicePort - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.74 
ipServiceProtocol - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.75
ipProtocolNumber - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.76
oncRpcNumber - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.81
ipHostNumber - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.82
ipNetworkNumber - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.77 
ipNetmaskNumber - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.78
macAddress - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.85
bootParameter - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.96
bootFile - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.98
nisMapName - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.94
nisMapName - isSingleValued = FALSE
nisMapEntry - attributeId = 1.2.840.113556.1.4.7000.187.95
nisMapEntry - isSingleValued = FALSE
nisMap - governsId = 1.2.840.113556.1.5.7000.106.58


R2 introduces both attributes:
GidNumber - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.1
UidNumber - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.0
gecos - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.2
loginShell - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.4 
shadowLastChange - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.5
shadowMin - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.6
shadowMin - attributeSyntax = 2.5.5.9
shadowMax - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.7 
shadowWarning - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.8
shadowWarning - attributeSyntax = 2.5.5.9
shadowInactive - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.9
shadowExpire - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.10
shadowFlag - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.11 
memberUid - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.12
memberNisNetgroup - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.13
memberNisNetgroup - attributeSyntax = 2.5.5.5
ipServicePort - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.15
ipServiceProtocol - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.16
ipProtocolNumber - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.17
oncRpcNumber - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.18
ipHostNumber - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.19
ipNetworkNumber - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.20
ipNetmaskNumber - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.21
macAddress - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.22 
bootParameter - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.23
bootFile - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.24
nisMapName - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.26
nisMapName - isSingleValued = TRUE 
nisMapEntry - attributeId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.1.27
nisMapEntry - isSingleValued = TRUE
nisMap - governsId = 1.3.6.1.1.1.2.9


The problem and solution is SIMILAR to the one mentioned in 
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=887426
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>jorge
>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
>>>>>>Desmond
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 07:28
>>>>>>To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>>Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did you ever get any resolution on this or more info?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Brian Desmond
>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>c - 312.731.3132
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- 
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:14 PM
>>>>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ask him/her what the article number is if this is a known
>>>>>>issue.  If
>>>>>>> he/she says there isn't one then say it sure isn't 
>>>known very well 
>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - 
>>>>>>> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>>Of Thommes, 
>>>>>>> Michael M.
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:18 PM
>>>>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Our MS TAM has indicated this is a known bug!  I will keep
>>>>>>the group
>>>>>>> posted as I learn more details.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike Thommes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>>Of Thommes, 
>>>>>>> Michael M.
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:52 AM
>>>>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As an update to this thread, we transferred the Schema 
>>>Master role
>>>>>>back
>>>>>>> to other DC that has the SFU tools installed originally
>>>>>>thinking this
>>>>>>> might get the R2 schema update to work.  Wrong!  It 
>>>fails with the
>>>>>>same
>>>>>>> error.  I can only imagine we do not have that unique an
>>>>>>environment
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>> our testbed and expect others to have the same experience. 
>>>>>> Luckily,
>>>>>>we
>>>>>>> never put SFU 3.5 on our production systems.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We are going to open up a trouble ticket with Microsoft
>>>>>>regarding this
>>>>>>> issue.  I would like to hear of others' experiences (success or
>>>>>>> failure) when trying to install R2 in an environment where
>>>>>>SFU 3.5 had
>>>>>>> been installed.  Thanks!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike Thommes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>>Of Thommes, 
>>>>>>> Michael M.
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:07 AM
>>>>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Guido,
>>>>>>>    Thanks for the response!  This server is Windows
>>>>>>2003/SP1 with all
>>>>>>> but the current month's patches.  It is the current FSMO
>>>>>>role holder.
>>>>>>> I did some checking this morning and find the SFU 3.5
>>>>>>tools on another
>>>>>>> DC that could have been the FSMO role holder at the time the SFU
>>>>>>schema
>>>>>>> changes were made.  I don't see why that would make any
>>>>>>difference, do
>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -mike
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>Grillenmeier,
>>>>>>> Guido
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:00 AM
>>>>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike - I see you're upgrading from Win2000 AD. Are your 
>>>sure that 
>>>>>>> you've previously installed SFU 3.5 or was it maybe SFU 2.0 ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The reason I'm asking is that there's a known schema
>>>>>>incompatibility
>>>>>>> with SFU 2.0:
>>>>>>> check out http://support.microsoft.com/?id=293783 
>>>"Cannot Upgrade 
>>>>>>> Windows 2000 Server to Windows Server 2003 with Windows
>>>>>>Services for
>>>>>>> UNIX 2.0 Installed"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CAUSE
>>>>>>> The upgrade may not work because the attributeSchema 
>>>'uid' that is
>>>>>>used
>>>>>>> by Windows 2000 Server for the NIS schema is not
>>>>>>compatible with the
>>>>>>> one that is used by Windows Server 2003.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As such your error is likely independent from the changes
>>>>>>in the R2
>>>>>>> schema - it's actually an incompatibility in the Win2003
>>>>>>base schema
>>>>>>> (not that this really matters for you; I just want to
>>>>>>clarify that the
>>>>>>> error should be unrelated to R2). As such it's different
>>>>>>from Aric's
>>>>>>> case, who was performing an upgrade from a Win2003 schema
>>>>>>to Win2003
>>>>>>> R2...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> /Guido
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>>Of Thommes, 
>>>>>>> Michael M.
>>>>>>> Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 02:53
>>>>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Aric,
>>>>>>>     No, there were a lot more errors - all seem to be
>>>>>>related to SFU
>>>>>>> attributes.  I only copied a small portion to my 
>>>posting to save 
>>>>>>> bandwidth.
>>>>>>> Painful = time = headaches  8-(  I was expecting this
>>>>>>upgrade to be a
>>>>>>> "walk in the park".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike Thommes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>Bernard, Aric
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:46 PM
>>>>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are these the only two errors you received?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I encountered similar errors during beta testing when I
>>>>>>implemented R2
>>>>>>> in an existing forest - but a lot more than just 2. :)  I
>>>>>>created a
>>>>>>> secondary forest and validated that it did not recur.  
>>>Note that I
>>>>>>also
>>>>>>> had SFU installed in the original forest and the new
>>>>>>secondary forest.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was able to clean up the schema in the existing 
>>>forest exhibiting
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>> errors but it was a fairly painful process of what 
>>>seemed to be a
>>>>>>goose
>>>>>>> chase.  The tasks included disabling objects attributes in
>>>>>>the schema
>>>>>>> and renaming them amongst other things.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fortunately I have not heard of this happening in 
>>>production...yet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So can these errors be ignored?  If I remember 
>>>correctly ADPrep is 
>>>>>>> actually failing and therefore NO you cannot ignore these
>>>>>>errors since
>>>>>>> ADPREP will nto occur until they are resolved.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Aric
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>>>Of Thommes, 
>>>>>>> Michael M.
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:22 PM
>>>>>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>     We did a adprep /forestprep from the W2K3/SP1 R2 Disk
>>>>>>2 CD today
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>> our testbed FSMO DC.  It gave the following errors 
>>>(only a portion 
>>>>>>> shown
>>>>>>> below) because, I am guessing, that we had already
>>>>>>installed SFU 3.5
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>> this forest some time ago.  Should I assume these errors can be 
>>>>>>> ignored?
>>>>>>> Has anybody else experienced this?  Thanks as always!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike Thommes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>==========================================================
>>>==========
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "attributeId" attribute value for objects defined in 
>>>Windows 2000 
>>>>>>> schema and ext ended schema do not match.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A previous schema extension has defined the attribute value as
>>>>>>> "1.2.840.113556.1
>>>>>>> .4.7000.187.70" for object
>>>>>>> "CN=uidNumber,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=anl,DC=go
>>>>>>> v" differently than the schema extension needed for Windows 2003
>>>>>>server
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> [Status/Consequence]
>>>>>>> Adprep cannot extend your existing schema [User Action]
>>>>>>Contact the
>>>>>>> vendor of the application that previously extended the
>>>>>>schema to res
>>>>>>> olve the inconsistency. Then run adprep again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>=============================================================
>>>>>>==========
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> =====
>>>>>>> "attributeId" attribute value for objects defined in 
>>>Windows 2000 
>>>>>>> schema and ext ended schema do not match.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A previous schema extension has defined the attribute value as
>>>>>>> "1.2.840.113556.1
>>>>>>> .4.7000.187.71" for object
>>>>>>> "CN=gidNumber,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=anl,DC=go
>>>>>>> v" differently than the schema extension needed for Windows 2003
>>>>>>server
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> [Status/Consequence]
>>>>>>> Adprep cannot extend your existing schema [User Action]
>>>>>>Contact the
>>>>>>> vendor of the application that previously extended the
>>>>>>schema to res
>>>>>>> olve the inconsistency. Then run adprep again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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