Sure, Brian :)
When I want to communicate DIRECTLY with you, or decide to directly pitch my
services to you, THAT is what you will see FIRST.
Sincerely,
_____
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Yesterday? -anon
________________________________
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian Desmond
Sent: Thu 4/27/2006 10:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT][ABUSE] - WAS: Perform gpupdate, start or shut
downs through ADUC
Would you set your display name to something other than
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"? I find the fact that I see your company's domain
first in Outlook to be a blatantly obvious marketing scheme to Outlook
users. ;)
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
c - 312.731.3132
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:40 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT][ABUSE] - WAS: Perform gpupdate, start or
> shut downs through ADUC
>
> Yeah, it did :)
>
> The siglines are pretty much commonly accepted "guerrilla marketing"
> options within the industry. Oldcomp and such have become commonly
> accepted part of discussions on this forum, and many of us who started
> recommending it on this list did not learn about it on this list. Even
> that aside, I have no recollection of you carpet-bombing the list with
> "FREE" announcements of your truly free tools. Actually, I remember
> that you were not the first one that said "yeah, my tool can do that"
> in response to questions relevant to your tools. We were the ones
going
> "have you tried joeware".
>
> When you've had to mention the tools, it has always had direct
> relationship with a given topic or question of the day. What this
> "FREE" vendor did was nothing but a misuse of the facility offered by
> this list. They were not RESPONDING to ANY technical question, or
> soliciting any technical opinion but the evaluation of a "bait". It
> would have been perfectly understandable if he had, perhaps, waited
for
> a question that his tool addresses and offered that announcement in
> response. That he just blasted it out so is, to be generous, ill-
> conceived.
>
> I know that many of us have joined numerous lists that held very good
> promises at the inception only to walk away when those lists become
> nothing but marketing boards for unscrupulous "FREE" tools commercial
> entities.
> ActiveDir remains one of the truly technically-sound lists around
> today, and I am sure that you guys made it so. If we don't beat back
> sneak "FREE"
> announcements like this as soon they rear their ugly heads, ActiveDir
> will lose its allure.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> _____
> (, / | /) /) /)
> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _
> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
> (_/ /)
> (/
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> www.readymaids.com <http://www.readymaids.com> - we know IT
> www.akomolafe.com <http://www.akomolafe.com> Do you now realize that
> Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
> Sent: Thu 4/27/2006 7:20 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT][ABUSE] - WAS: Perform gpupdate, start or
> shut
> downs through ADUC
>
>
>
> Wow Deji, that bug bit you pretty hard! One could argue that the URL
in
> my
> sig is unsolicited as well as the multiple URLs in your sig.
>
> It doesn't appear that Tony has an issue with it as I can't find a
> message
> from him on the topic. I expect he would have busted it if he wanted
> to, he
> has busted most of that stuff that has come through and he is the only
> one
> with an official AD Org list police badge (its made of plastic but it
> is
> still good in 99.4% of the world) that I am aware of.
>
>
> --
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:12 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [ABUSE] - WAS: Perform gpupdate, start or
shut
> downs through ADUC
>
> Neil,
>
> The webpage and this list are different forums. The spirit of the list
> has
> always been to refrain from using it as a forum for naked
> advertisement.
> Free or not, what Robert did was a blatant misuse of the list service
-
> IMO.
> He was not responding to a question that requires him plugging his
> freeware.
> Unless Tony had changed the rules without informing the list members,
> we
> have always frowned upon this type of sneak attack.
>
> The reason I asked whether or not Tony approved it is because that has
> usually been the proper way to get private, unsolicited announcements
> onto
> the list. I don't want to believe that the mere fact that SpecOps
> advertises
> on the website grants them a "pass" to extend their reach into my
> inbox. If
> Tony approved it, fine. If not, it is an abusive use of a forum
because
> it
> was unsolicited and unrelated to any ongoing technical subject matter.
> The
> fact that it's FREE is irrelevant because, come to think of it, Trojan
> horses are free too, and that doesn't make them palatable. SpecOps
> makes
> commercial products. Their ultimate goal is to drive traffic up to
> their
> sites with "FREE" offers in the hope of getting you to bite the more
> tantalizing apples.
> Many of us would love to be able to do so as well, but we are
> respecting the
> technical quality of this list and refusing to dilute the sound
> discussions
> with specious "FREE" offers.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> _____
> (, / | /) /) /)
> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _
> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
> (_/ /)
> (/
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> www.readymaids.com <http://www.readymaids.com> - we know IT
> www.akomolafe.com <http://www.akomolafe.com> Do you now realize that
> Today
> is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Mon 4/24/2006 12:25 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [ABUSE] - WAS: Perform gpupdate, start or
shut
> downs
> through ADUC
>
>
>
> I doubt Tony has an issue with this, since he already has an advert
for
> SpecOps on the activeDir home page :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: 23 April 2006 19:25
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [ABUSE] - WAS: Perform gpupdate, start or
shut
> downs through ADUC
>
> Yeah Tony is usually pretty ok with people posting about free tools.
I
> expect if it got out of hand though he would start smacking me, I mean
> the people who post about them.
>
> I would never send an initial post that was advertising one of my
tools
> that you have to pay for; however I wouldn't have an issue listing it
> in
> direct response to a problem someone is having.
>
>
> --
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve patrick
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:15 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] [ABUSE] - WAS: Perform gpupdate, start or
shut
> downs through ADUC
>
> Seems fair enough to me, its a free tool right?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:43 AM
> Subject: [ActiveDir] [ABUSE] - WAS: Perform gpupdate, start or shut
> downs through ADUC
>
>
> Tony,
>
> When did you relax the rules? I have things I'd like to pitch, too. Is
> it a free-for-all now?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> _____
> (, / | /) /) /)
> /---| (/_ ______ ___// _ // _
> ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
> (_/ /)
> (/
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> www.readymaids.com <http://www.readymaids.com> - we know IT
> www.akomolafe.com <http://www.akomolafe.com> Do you now realize that
> Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Robert Lundh
> Sent: Fri 4/21/2006 8:09 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Perform gpupdate, start or shut downs through
> ADUC
>
>
>
> Great feedback Neil.
>
> I will forward your ideas/feedback/questions to the Product Manager of
> Specops Gpupdate asap and try to answer you later today or early next
> week.
>
> And yes, we have had many folks requesting this kind of tool.
>
> Have a good weekend,
> Robert Lundh
> Special Operations Software
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 4:58 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Perform gpupdate, start or shut downs through
> ADUC
>
> Immediate questions / comments come to mind:
>
> 1. Does each and every admin need to install the software? I would
hope
> not, but can't be sure from the docs.
> 2. Re-word context menu 'gpupdate' to 'Refresh GPOs' [much more
> meaningful
> :) ] 3. I'm uncomfortable at the thought of offering re-start and
> shutdown command via ADU&C :) I'd rather those operations were a
little
> more 'hidden'
> and thus less likely to be invoked accidentally.
> 4. I'd like to see the changes made in AD (as a result of the
> installation) documented in *detail* before I even looked at this in a
> lab.
> The doc alludes to those changes but more detail is needed IMHO.
>
> Personally, I can think of several other additions that could / should
> be made to context menus, that I'd like to see before 'restart' and
> 'shutdown'.
> Examples:
> - Unlock user
> - Unlock all users in OU
> - Show user data (last logon, last bad logon etc)
>
> Did customers ask for a bulk gp updating tool?
>
> My (candid) 2 penneth,
> neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Lundh
> Sent: 21 April 2006 15:39
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Perform gpupdate, start or shut downs through
ADUC
>
> Dear listmembers,
>
> Today we have released a free tool that gives you the power to perform
> gpupdate, start ups or shut downs of computers through Active
Directory
> Users and Computers. We would love if you tried the tool called
Specops
> Gpupdate and came with feedback to us on how to further improve it. We
> have developed this tool to make your job as an admin as easy as
> possible.
>
> Here is the link to the product page where you can download the tool:
> http://www.specopssoft.com/products/specopsgpupdate/default.asp
>
> Best Regards,
> Robert Lundh
> Special Operations Software
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