Thanks to all the work from Laura, Jorge and Tony.
Mitch
On 12/5/06, Tony Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I've done some more testing and the results are interesting.
In both instances I have the policy in place and set to "Object Creator".
1.
If the account used for AD object creation is a member of Domain
Admins the owner is shown as Domain Admins.
2.
If the account used for AD object creation is a member of
Administrators the owner is shown as the account used to create the
object.
Tony
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Jorge de
Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2006 12:00 p.m.
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
?
sorry to say, but I have different results...mailed them offline to Laura
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Tue 2006-12-05 23:04
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
Just to make sure everybody understands what I am saying, I'm going to
summarize this one last time.
If I create an object in AD while I am logged on with an account that is a
member of Domain Admins, Domain Admins becomes the owner of the object.
NOT
the Administrators group. NOT the object creator. DOMAIN ADMINS.
If I create an obect in AD while I am logged in with an account that is
NOT
a member of Domain Admins and IS a member of the built-in Administrators
group in Active Directory, DOMAIN ADMINS STILL becomes the owner of the
object. NOT Administrators, and NOT the object creator.
Period. End of story. The group policy setting "System objects: Default
owner for objects created by members of the Administrators group" DOES NOT
AFFECT DIRECTORY OBJECTS.
Test. It. Yourself. :-)
Laura
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Jorge de
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
?
just like I wrote it and tony confirmed it....
do you have other experiences?
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
( Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
( Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Tue 2006-12-05 21:17
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
Test what I wrote in my other response.
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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:29 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
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which part?
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
( Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
( Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Tue 2006-12-05 19:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
Have you tested this?
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Jorge de
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
If you are member of ADMINISTRATORS directly or indirectly through a
CUSTOM
group it will by default list ADMINISTRATORS. Changing the policy lists
the
object creator.
If you are member of DOMAIN ADMINS also, it will list DOMAIN ADMINS…. Is
this what you mean?
If the latter is the case check with REPADMIN /SHOWOBJMETA on which DC the
object was created (also note the date and time). On the DC that is listed
as the originating DC for the account creation check the security log. If
it
concerns SECURITY PRINICIPAL objects you might be lucky if you have
configured Account Management for SUCCESS (also the default if I’m not
mistaken). If it concerns OTHER objects you are lucky if you have
configured
directory service access for SUCCESS (also the default if I’m not
mistaken) AND you have configured one or more SACLs on objects or Ous with
objects that should be audited
jorge
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: dinsdag 5 december 2006 18:20
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
I'd say that you should test it. Create and link a policy where you've set
"system objects: default owner for objects created by members of the
administrators group" to "Object creator". Then create a user in AD and
check the ownership.
Laura
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Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:25 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
?
can you explain?
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
* Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
* Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Tue 2006-12-05 01:45
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
Which will have no effect on the ownership of the directory objects.
Laura
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Jorge de
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 4:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD
object?
look at the owner....
if it lists ADMINISTRATORS, you might wanna change the security option in
the default DCs GPO which is called: "system objects: default owner for
objects created by members of the administrators group"
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven)
* Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777
* Mobile : +31-(0)6-26.26.62.80
* E-mail : <see sender address>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mitch Reid
Sent: Mon 2006-12-04 21:14
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Is it possible to determine who created an AD object?
?
We had a few user accounts that were deleted and then recreated and nobody
will take responsibility.
I used ADSIedit to verify the creation date/time.
While auditing is enabled, the Security log rolled and we missed the event
(yes I know it's an issue).
Is there a way to see who created the the user object?
Thanks, Mitch.
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