Ok now we know Jan is a 'deviant'. It's piqued my interest, so I looked up Randy as well....

At least one of us has the beard...

Jan Dubois wrote:

And yes, no facial hair... Back in the days (December 1999) I was the
only developer at ActiveState without some kind of guru-beard (remember,
I'm an ex-banker), but over time I convinced some others (including the
gsar man) to come clean too. :)

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