wow, so many great responses in so short a time. thanks everyone.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ..on or around Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:03:52AM +1200 Luke Munn wrote:
>> hey ADAers,
>>
>> my wife and I are tentatively considering moving to berlin, germany
>> for about a year so I thought I'd tap the pool of knowledge... :-)
>>
>> -i'm an interactive designer (websites, animation, games, etc,
>> http://www.werkhaus.co.nz) and my wife is a freelance illustrator
>> (http://www.kimberleemunnillustrator.co.nz). any thoughts on how easy
>> or hard it is to find this type of work in the city?
>
> there's pretty much no work in Berlin, so i wouldn't have too many
> illusions about getting a job there outside of learning enough Deutsche
> to serve tables or teaching English. within the field of interactive
> design, some of the world's best live in Berlin, speak German and they
> don't have work. luckily Berlin is well placed as a capital so you can work
> in neighbouring countries or perhaps even the odd German city.
>
> it's also pretty hard given that Germany - as a rule - will employ one
> of the 5 million unemployed there well before they will you, often even
> if you are better qualified. almost no-one that comes from abroad moves
> to Berlin with a work visa. most just turn up and wing it - that's the
> cultural value of the place from a foreign perspective, why it's an
> artist's mecca.
>
>>
>> -how difficult is it to obtain work visas to germany? i've read some
>> differing opinions on this. some say you need a firm job offer from a
>> german company, etc. is this a lengthy process that i should start way
>> before hand, or something easier done from berlin?
>>
>> -have read the cost of living in berlin is relatively cheap. is this
>> true in your experience? how do food prices and rent compare to nz?
>>
>
> well i lived there for 2 years on very little compared to european
> standards: EUR600 a month was what we paid in East Berlin. that's was
> marginally expensive by Berlin standards, vastly inexpensive
> western-europe-wide and low for Germany: Berlin is a city made for 8
> million with just 5 million living there. at any given time there are
> many thousands of free apartments.
>
> if you're bringing weak NZ dollars you'll need to be resourceful
> regardless. shop at Lidl, do the market thing and make sure you take an
> apartment with an oven so you can actually cook at home.
>
>> -is it true that you can get by on english alone? or do you really
>> need some german to work, get around, get by daily?
>>
>
> if you want to participate in German life, become a local, then learn
> Deutsche. even just enough to order bread, ask where you are, tell who
> you are, will also earn you social time and greater freedom of movement.
>
> if you're happy hanging out with the many Brits, Americans, Aussies and
> English-speaking Berliners, then you can certainly get by very basic
> Deutsche: most youngish people speak a little English just fine. that
> said, i experienced a distinct cultural glass-ceiling: you'll always be
> just another foreigner - temporary - while you're not making an effort.
>
> warnings?
>
> one of the first things to do when you get in is register with the
> police. do so on the Frankfurter Alle branch, corner of
> ProskauerStrasse. the queue is very short compared to most other places
> in Berlin. get there at 10am at the latest to avoid a wait. if you ever
> get into trouble the city will be on your side with this registration.
> it's as close as you'll get to being 'legal' as a non-EU Ausländer,
> especially after your 3 months of gratis tourist visa.
>
> secondly, don't rely on Craigslist to find a place - many scheister's
> hang out there these days. look in the immobilien guides. this one is
> perhaps the top:
>
>    http://www.immobilienscout24.de/immobiliensuche/berlin/berlin.htm
>
> remember that apartments in Berlin come with *nothing* in them,
> sometimes even the light-fittings are taken with the previous tenant. if
> you find a place with furniture and a kitchen and it's a little more
> expensive, than a competing apartment with nothing, take it.
>
> bear in mind also the difference between "warm" and "cold" rent. warm
> rent is often sometimes the monthly average *including heating* of the
> previous year's tenancy. always take warm-rent as your final guide and
> ask "what is the warm rent?". when you leave you will get money back if
> you've paid too much heating cost. always take a meter reading..
>
> don't take a house with coal-heating unless you're prepared to buy coal
> and huddle around in just one room to stay warm in Winter. central
> heating is your first priority, then light: when we were there it got
> down to -27C for a couple of days one winter. you'll have just 5 hours
> of decent light that far north on a sunny winter day. if you take an
> apartment high-up you'll benefit from the heat coming up from below and
> - in many cases - more light.
>
> if you want to lease a flat make sure you have papers from your previous
> apartments in NZ or elsewhere. also be prepared to present your financial
> records. this doesn't always happen but we were hit with a full check.
>
> Berlin's a beautiful and great city, however, rather than planning to
> set up a castle there straight away i would give it 3 months of
> live-in-research in a flat-sharing situation. your social relationships
> there will define your movements and options much more than your
> abstract ambitions will have it. to some degree we found that only once
> we embraced this contingency, once we dove in to social life there, did
> the city open up for us.
>
> that may sound undeservedly romantic, but it really is the case with
> Berlin, something others will tell you also.
>
> cheers,
>
> --
> julian oliver
> http://julianoliver.com
> http://selectparks.net
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