FYI, the Creative Freedom Foundation's submission is over here:
http://creativefreedom.org.nz/story.html?id=381

Bronwyn

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Julian Oliver <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Douglas,
>
> ..on Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 04:08:14PM +1200, Douglas Bagnall wrote:
> >
> > Friday was the day for submissions on this section 92 review, and
> > although I had known that for some time I did not start writing until
> > about 3:30 that afternoon.  That means I didn't get to run it past you
> > lot, I didn't squeeze everyone's opinions in, and I confabulated where I
> > could not recall details.  Also I missed at least one apostrophe.  Sorry
> > about that.  On the positive side, it is short and mostly to the point.
>
> I think it's mostly a pretty good summary. Thanks.
>
> In retrospect it would've been good to talk about what constitutes a
> copyright
> infringement from a user perspective.  I've no doubt breached someone's
> non-pro-copying rights license here and there just because I've aquired the
> document/music/image through a search or a link from another site where the
> author's name and copyright are not present.
>
> In other words it's too easy to be hard handed about copyright breaches at
> the
> user end without admitting the role network infrastructure - and the
> inherent
> complexities introduced by linking - plays in 'making available' that
> material.
>
> For this reason any three-strikes-you're-out approach is an abuse of
> evidence:
> it doesn't configure intent and knowledge in the supposedly criminal act.
>
> Section 92 is yet another example of why corporeal property cannot be
> conveniently dragged-and-dropped into the digital domain.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Julian
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Section 92
> > Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:57:04 +1200
> > From: Douglas Bagnall <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> > Dear MED,
> >
> > The Aotearoa Digital Arts network was formed by and for New Zealand
> > artists who use digital media.  We hold regular symposia and maintain
> > a vibrant email discussion list.  Our main focus is on visual arts in
> > the traditional gallery-centric sense, though many of our 200 or so
> > members are primarily musicians, theatre practitioners, film-makers,
> > writers, or otherwise artistically oriented.  Some of us are also
> > members of the CFF and APRA and other groups that purport to represent
> > artists, but ADA is not affiliated with them.
> >
> > In July we discussed Section 92, and copyright in general, on our
> > mailing list.  Although our members have widely ranging views, there
> > were some points of consensus:
> >
> > * We think disconnection is an excessive response.  Most digital
> >   artists depend on internet connections for their livelihood, and
> >   many of us use shared connections in studios, offices, or flats.
> >   Disconnecting what seems like an infringing account from the ISP's
> >   point of view may well affect several innocent people, perhaps
> >   drastically.
> >
> > * We are not all particularly fond of fines either, as they punish in
> >   inverse proportion to wealth, but we prefer them to disconnection.
> >
> > * The sending of notices is fine.
> >
> > * Most of us support the idea of copyright in general, if only due to
> >   a lack of plausible alternatives.  Those who suggested we oppose
> >   copyright as a concept were proposing this as a posture and not
> >   meaning to eschew its protection for their own work.
> >
> > * We are all users of open licenses, whether as consumers or
> >   producers, and most believe they are a useful option for artists.
> >   Although it may not seem directly relevant to the section 92 review,
> >   copyright law should be written with support for these kinds of
> >   licenses in mind.
> >
> > Somebody also suggested a surcharge on internet traffic that could be
> > redirected toward artists, but this was not widely supported.  Another
> > person proposed a set of rites that downloaders should perform that
> > would put them in a grateful frame of mind.  Although this may not be
> > legally practical, it is interesting to shift the debate from the
> > damage to rights holders profits to the damage inflicted upon
> > downloaders souls by an excessive sense of entitlement and greed.
> >
> > The email list discussion can be found here:
> >
> > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/ada_list/2009-July/date.html
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Douglas Bagnall
> > (on behalf of the Aotearoa Digital Arts trust)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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