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Today's Topics:
1. Re: [Fwd: Section 92] (adam hyde)
2. Fwd: Cao Fei Utopia, Tour of RMB City, onsite & online,
Thursday 13 August, 3pm (Luke Duncalfe)
3. FW: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] curatorial masterclass series held
at Eyebeam in July 09 - videos online (Clothieri)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:50:24 +0200
From: adam hyde <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Ada_list] [Fwd: Section 92]
To: Douglas Bagnall <[email protected]>
Cc: ada list <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <1250067024.3824.4.ca...@esetera>
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hey
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 15:50 +1200, Douglas Bagnall wrote:
adam wrote:
this looks good although (just for reference) the section :
Those who suggested we oppose
copyright as a concept were proposing this as a posture and not
meaning to eschew its protection for their own work.
isnt accurate at least on behalf of the points i made, as i do
oppose
copyright. Its not a provocative stance, although in this context it
would have been provocative
I don't mean for you to alter the text, just pointing out that my
position on copyright isn't theatre
Yes, sorry. I had misgivings about that paragraph, which I knew
didn't
really capture your position. In retrospect I should probably have
left
it at the first sentence ("Most of us support the idea of copyright
in
general, if only due to a lack of plausible alternatives").
its no problem. i only use the gpl, by the way, because copyright
forces
me to use a license. this is the best given the circumstances. the
other
issues, such as essays i have written on free formats, are written
given
that we live in a world with copyright. the more i work with copyright
the more i realise that free licenses are a necessary hack to a system
that i can no longer understand - copyright
adam
However, if I were to try defending the sentence, I would treat the
two
clauses separately and note that you initially put forward no-
copyright
as a provocation[1], and also that you, in practice, do not eschew
copyright because you (e.g.) use the GPL. Then having established
each
part I would try to pretend the conjunction didn't imply something
else.
Another thing I might do is try to change the subject, and ask how
your
no-copyright stance interacts with your uses of copyright, and with
various other stances you have taken on copyright issues, such as the
essays making nuanced distinctions between licenses and arguing that
software piracy hurts free software, and so forth[2]. What about all
that?, I would say, and generally try to make your position the
topic,
rather than my misrepresentation of it. But I'm not defending the
sentence because I agree it is misleading and I am truly sorry.
douglas
[1] http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/ada_list/2009-July/
002615.html
[2] People could turn to page 106 of the Aotearoa Digital Arts Reader
available from http://www.clouds.co.nz/012/, or just google.
--
Adam Hyde
Founder FLOSS Manuals
German mobile : + 49 15 2230 54563
Email : [email protected]
irc: irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals
"Free manuals for free software"
http://www.flossmanuals.net/about
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:46:41 +1200
From: Luke Duncalfe <[email protected]>
Subject: [Ada_list] Fwd: Cao Fei Utopia, Tour of RMB City, onsite &
online, Thursday 13 August, 3pm
To: ?Aotearoa Digital Arts? <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Artspace sent through news that they're giving a virtual tour of China
Tracey's RMB City in Second Life on Thursday 13th at 3pm (NZ time)
conducted by JudyArx Scribe, Judy Cockram and Harold Galaxy. I'll try
to join so look out for Vaco Waco going wacky. I hope I can remember
how to fly ..
Meet by the swans outside RMB City?s Peoples? Palace. RMB City 1,
(181, 54, 141) RMB-City
Luke
Begin forwarded message:
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: 10 August 2009 4:54:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Cao Fei Utopia, Tour of RMB City, onsite & online, Thursday
13 August, 3pm
Reply-To: [email protected]
CAO FEI UTOPIA
RMB City TOUR
WITH JUDYARX SCRIBE & HAROLD GALAXY
THURSDAY 13 AUGUST, 3PM
ONSITE OR ONLINE
Harold Galaxy, RMB City, Peoples? Stadium (screen capture)
You?re only getting a glimpse of China Tracey?s RMB City in the
promo clip currently playing at ARTSPACE. Let there be no doubt that
the tourist limbo of the panorama with its brightly lit colours and
delirium of activity is only magnified once you step into RMB City.
Guided by JudyArx Scribe, Auckland University?s School of
Architecture, Judy Cockram, and Harold Galaxy, art critic Harold
Grieves, the tour will sample the full range of sites RMB City has
to offer. From the monopoly game in the Olympic stadium to the swan
ride over the Peoples? Palace and even the space rocket ride to
oblivion, JudyArx Scribe and Harold Galaxy will present a guided
tour of the tourist wonderland that is RMB City. Please join us this
Thursday afternoon, either here at ARTSPACE where the tour will take
place as a video presentation, or alternatively join us in Second
Life, for an ?in world? guided tour of the delights, foibles, and
interactions of Cao Fei&rsqu o;s ambitiously delirious piece of
urban-planning.
ONLINE PARTICIPANTS:
Meet by the swans outside RMB City?s Peoples? Palace. RMB City 1,
(181, 54, 141) RMB-City
To join Second Life and visit RMB City, register for a free account
at:
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:08:24 +1200
From: Clothieri <[email protected]>
Subject: [Ada_list] FW: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] curatorial masterclass
series held at Eyebeam in July 09 - videos online
To: "Aotearoa Digital Arts <[email protected]>"
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <c6a9b2b8.1240b%[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi,
The below links will be of interest to many on the list. The links
are to
videos that have come from CRUMB's curatorial masterclasses as part
of and
Eyebeam programme.
I C
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From: Sarah Cook <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Sarah Cook <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:58:43 +0100
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] curatorial masterclass series held at
Eyebeam
in July 09 - videos online
Hi CRUMB list lurkers,
for your viewing pleasure, the videos from the first hour
conversations with new media curators which took place as part of the
Curatorial Masterclass Series at CRUMB's research partner Eyebeam Art
and Technology Center in New York in July are now online at Eyebeam's
blip.tv account, with direct RSS feed into the Eyebeam website and
therefore available on the Curatorial Masterclass page, alongside
photos and the pdf of the handouts for each session:
http://eyebeam.org/events/summer-school-curatorial-masterclass
What open source is and what it means for art - with Scott Burnham
and Dominic Smith, response from Fred Benenson
http://eyebeam.org/press/media/videos/eyebeam-summer-school-
curatorial-masterclass-day-1
Publication and Documentation - with Lize Mogel, response from
Rebecca Cittadini
http://eyebeam.org/press/media/videos/eyebeam-summer-school-
curatorial-masterclass-day-2
Networking and Collaboration - with Patrick Lichty and Amanda
McDonald Crowley, response from Jon Cohrs
http://eyebeam.org/press/media/videos/eyebeam-summer-school-
curatorial-masterclass-day-3
Curating in the public domain - with Steve Dietz, response from
TaeYoon Choi
http://eyebeam.org/press/media/videos/eyebeam-summer-school-
curatorial-masterclass-day-4
Evaluation and Audience Engagement - with Anne Barlow, response from
Stephen Duncombe
http://eyebeam.org/press/media/videos/eyebeam-summer-school-
curatorial-masterclass-day-5
(Turn the volume way up!)
I hope that they are interesting to watch for those who weren't there
(feedback welcome! go easy on us, I had a broken foot and it was
hot!). CRUMB will be working to transcribe these sessions and write
up notes from the roundtable tea-fuelled conversations which took
place after the video camera was turned off, and all will be posted
on the CRUMB site soon.
Thanks for tuning in,
Sarah
Sarah Cook
CRUMB - the resource for curators of new media art - http://
www.crumbweb.org
Faculty of Arts, Design and Media
University of Sunderland, UK
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