A hub for digital creation is a great idea. Networking of projects for
artists not necessarily specific to the location would require
logistical planning which would need a dedicated person to achieve. A
physical address for convergence/creation and a bus/van to gather
material/artists and showcase exhibitions would also be good. In most
cases undertaking such endeavours would not be achievable on a shoe
string budget… there are always costs even working in the digital
realm.

I think providing material to audiences in the form of a DVD after the
event and having the artist/s undertaking the exhibition utilizing
their own electronic materials would be most suitable. Many
freelancers do this already and there is potential income from this
idea.

Being that the focus should be New Zealand wide any proposal should be
far reaching. Many isolated artists would appreciate a proposal factor
for small towns.

Technically speaking equipment networking could pose some issues.
However there are usually solutions to this and I am sure that the
skills base would mean little additional equipment sourcing.

The response of ADA members surly gives the idea enough merit to pursue.

River



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> ahah - the little link to "overview" at the bottom of the long page ...
> tricky! thanks rachel : )
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> Rachel Gillies wrote:
>> Hi, just to add to that,
>>
>> I know Access Space in sheffield too and it's also been going for
>> quite a while on the model it uses. (thanks Helen, I immediately
>> thought of this space when julian posted but couldn't remember the
>> name of it!)
>>
>> For futher info on their computer recucling go here:
>> http://www.access-space.org/?c=recycling
>> And for links to the other stuff it does, go here:
>> http://www.access-space.org/?c=overview
>>
>> and WATCH THIS SPACE: (maybe) - the section "GROW YOUR OWN MEDIA LAB"
>> project here: http://www.access-space.org/?c=gyoml (although need to
>> wait for the report which isn't actually there yet)
>>
>> cheers, rachel
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> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 10:30:51 +1300
> From: Stella <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Ada_list] dreaming sustainably
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> thanks for that comment helen... I have to agree that sustainability
> is the key.  I'm aware of how long and hard we've worked (6 years so
> far) to get ADA into a shape that will have continuity and robust back-
> end systems that support all the interesting stuff in the front (like
> su adding up all those receipts and making groovy-coloured
> spreadsheets), and so I have to assume that other similar things by
> other people will require that level of slog and commitment.
> Unfortunately in the current climate, CNZ seems to be cutting support
> for paying actual humans to do this kinda stuff (personnel being the
> most expensive ongoing cost for organisations), and the board all
> having at least one day job is probably a limiting factor (but also
> often in other ways an enabling one) on the kind of stuff that ADA can
> take on.
>
> This is not to say we shouldn't  'think big' (though muldoon-era
> infrastructure projects might not be the model we're after), or that
> submissions to a CNZ strategic plan are all things that ADA itself
> might achieve, but helping people to keep doing the really interesting
> stuff they're already working on and connecting them up to other
> people is a valuable and do-able thing that ADA as a whole should be
> able to come up with ways to make happen (and it seems like some dream
> dates have alreay been set up).  Is that what you mean by marketing,
> Rachel?
>
> I have to say that this conversation is sprawling beyond my ability to
> keep track of the main ideas and information, so it might be useful if
> people who've put up links or specific strategic suggestions could put
> them on the wiki:
>
> http://ada.greenbench.org/pmwiki.php/CNZ-2009/Ideas
>
> Love that Douglas Bus...
>
> Interesting to see there's a piece about Raqs and Sarai in this
> month's Artforum.  Artworld collectivism is still fashionable!
>
> best,
> Stella
>
>
> On 8/10/2009, at 8:23 AM, helen varley jamieson wrote:
>
>> julian's post brings to mind access space in sheffield, which has a
>> public lab with (totally?) recycled computers. they've just redesigned
>> their web site & i can't find specific info about the recycling, but i
>> understand that they collect computers from individuals rather than
>> companies (or is it the other way around?), & give them a refit
>> (http://www.access-space.org/).  closer to home there are things like
>> the 20/20 trust, computers in homes, & porirua e-learning trust that
>> already do a lot of computer recycling. i've donated a few things to
>> porirua e-learning & they seem to take just about anything.
>>
>> as for the rest of the current discussion - i haven't been able to
>> follow it closely because i'm completely overwhelmed with a project
>> (http://www.creative-catalyst.com/letmego). from what i've skim-read
>> it
>> seems like there are many great & worthwhile ideas; but with all of
>> these ideas, it takes a really motivated individual to actually make
>> something happen & to keep it going; even when there is a team of
>> people
>> on a project, there's usually one or maybe two who are really driving
>> it, & when that person or people either get burnt out or for whatever
>> reason leave the project, it soons disintegrates.
>>
>> this is not to say that things shouldn't be attempted, but maybe we
>> could also consider ways to support the people who initiate & put the
>> hard work into making stuff happen, so that they don't burn out or
>> when
>> they leave they can hand over the reins to someone else. i don't have
>> any answers, i'm just conscious of the whole reinventing-the-wheel
>> thing
>> that seems to happen so often in the arts in nz, & the constant
>> emphasis
>> on "new" rather than developing existing projects.
>>
>> h : )
>>>
>>> As I mentioned last post, I wonder whether the digital arts scene
>>> in NZ could
>>> benefit here from a corporate computer recycling program akin to
>>> that of
>>> http://recycle.lowtech.org/
>>>
>>> Lowtech has donations of hundreds of computers at a time - often
>>> just a couple
>>> of years old and - sent from corporations and government offices
>>> rather than
>>> shipped off to China or India for 'recycling' (or simply made into
>>> landfill).
>>> They throw on a modern Linux distribution and distribute them to arts
>>> organisations in turn. A formalised recycling program like this
>>> could pump PC
>>> hardware - at the least - into events and workshops where needed,
>>> reducing the
>>> portion of the budget otherwise spent on this hardware.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>>
>>
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