Sander Steffann wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
> 
> 
>>Then lets change the text of the policy for recieving the last /22.
>>
>>Point 5.1, rule 4:
>>
>>From:
>>Allocations will only be made to LIRs if they have already received an IPv6 
>>allocation from an upstream LIR or the RIPE NCC.
>>
>>To:
>>Allocations will only be made to LIRs if the have already received and IPv6 
>>PI or PA from another LIR, RIPE NCC or other RIR.
> 
> 
> That is still something that won't push real deployment, only administrative 
> work...

Indeed. Just look at Section D of the impact anlysis, ref. the company structure
comment(s).

In general I can live with the current proposal, but I am worried about the 
formal
requirement of "in a Registry mirrored by the RIPE NCC", because it would 
invalidate
the policy in case something happens to the mirroring. But be it, in the 
interest of
PI holders which already *have* implemented IPv6...

In general, I would be much more in favour of a version of the proposal which 
removes
the IPV6 holdership or usage *completely*. For all the reasons that have been 
pointed
out already by others. (Thanks for that!).

Wilfried

> 
> A different idea: if we want people requesting IPv4 space to be aware of IPv6 
> then why not just make it a requirement that the requester declares that they 
> are aware that IPv4 is a scarce and limited resource and that for further 
> scalability of the internet IPv6 deployment is required. It would probably 
> have the same impact on real IPv6 deployment without any window dressing.
> 
> And it would avoid requiring people to request resources that they have no 
> intention of using at that point in time. IPv6 resources are easy to get: 
> when they decide to deploy IPv6 it is easy for them to get the necessary 
> resources at that point. And they will probably also know better what to 
> request. I wonder how many LIRs have just requested an IPv6 /32 without 
> thinking because they only needed to go through the motions to get an IPv4 
> /22.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sander
> 
> 


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