Nothing bad in the things when people need IPs and get them.
IPs should cost nothing. It's just numbers. The luck of IPs - it's the
RIPEs falt I guese.
As far as we see a lot of IPs are not routed and not used. But some
small companies own a lot of IPs space never realy used.
Another one trick - that FREE IPs number is growing.
https://www.ripe.net/publications/ipv6-info-centre/about-ipv6/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-available-pool-graph
https://labs.ripe.net/statistics - LIR number grows becouse it's not
other way to get some IPs.
So the most profit comes to RIPE, but we still have the same LIR fees,
they are not going down as the number of real companys that use RIPE
services.
Vadim
On 23.04.2015 14:55, Erik Bais wrote:
Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations
Hi Gabriel,
I agree with you that it might satisfy a specific need for a company
at a certain time to open a new LIR..
I’ve seen LIR’s request for a /22 that didn’t even knew they could
still get a free /22 from the RIPE NCC. . . .
The goal of this proposal is to stop the abuse of opening a new LIR,
transferring the /22 for profit to another LIR and close the LIR.
As it is against the original intent of the final /8 last /22
procedure (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-643#51 )
And specifically :
Point 3 : The LIR must confirm it will make assignment(s) from the
allocation.
The intention of the current policy and why it was made as it was in
the past, is to give EVERY LIR 1 additional /22 … and also have enough
for new entries in the market ( looking at the new sign-ups of LIR
typically in the market, if you look at how that number grew over the
last couple years.. ) for at least 5 to 6 years …
Point 3 doesn’t say .. The LIR must confirm it will make assignment(s)
from the allocation or transfer parts or the complete allocation for
profit to another LIR.
This policy text was never intended to have new LIR’s being setup and
closed just to get cheap IP’s … And I’m pretty sure that if that was
foreseen at the time, that the respective author would have closed
that gap at the time …
As that is in the past … and this is currently being abused .. It is
time to fix this and close this gap.
Regards,
Erik Bais
*Van:*address-policy-wg [mailto:[email protected]]
*Namens *Infinity Telecom SRL
*Verzonden:* donderdag 23 april 2015 13:41
*Aan:* Erik Bais; [email protected]
*Onderwerp:* Re: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4
Allocations
Hello Erik,
Why someone will come to me to get new IPs, when they can open a LIR
by them self ? Without extra cost ?
I think everyone that open a LIR right now its because they dont have
any chance to BUY from sellers..
Thank you.
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Cu stima,
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