On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 04:17:23PM +0000, Kennedy, James wrote:
True. If indeed the "downstream" in this policy statement is in
relation to the hierarchical registry system rather than in BGP
transit terms, then yes PA customer assignments that are routed
separately to the LIR are valid.

Actually, even assignments which are *not at all* connected to
the Internet are valid. In practice, the vast majority of
assignments will be downstream of the assigning LIR due to the
routing issues mentioned earlier in the thread.

I raised the question as I've heard several community members
complain, validly IMO, about some LIRs that have accumulated
vast v4 PA allocations that are technically autonomous to the
LIR.  Seems strange to have been allowed, especially considering
the market value on these resources now.

It is allowed because the intention of the policy was never to
impose a hierarchy on the structure of the Internet, merely to
have a distributed registry, rather than one huge juggernaut.

And yeah, the phrasing is sufficiently ambiguous for this to have
come up on the list before...

rgds,
Sascha Luck

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