Hi.

What if some one opens business, become a LIR (pay money for it) then
understand that he need to close his business? But he cannot even sell
IPs because of this proposal. I think, the NCC can create special
section in LIR portal (there is already one) but there will be IPs
from the last /8 only. And when new LIR will request the resources,
the NCC will check it in LIR portal and suggest to take one of them.

It will save the last /8 for new members.

So I oppose this proposal.

2016-06-16 17:41 GMT+03:00 Dickinson, Ian <[email protected]>:
> Hi Remco,
>
> I'm still thinking this through, but a few questions jumped out at me, which 
> imply there is still wordsmithing required.
>
> Given that the wording implies retroactively applying to everything 
> previously allocated in 185/8, what will happen to those ALLOCATED FINAL 
> allocations that have already been transferred? And where there are already 
> multiple such ALLOCATED FINAL allocations within a single LIR?
>
> What is the policy for Merger & Acquisition with respect to ALLOCATED FINAL 
> allocations as opposed to resource transfer?
>
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address-policy-wg [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of Remco van Mook
> Sent: 16 June 2016 15:14
> To: Marco Schmidt <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2016-03 Discussion Period extended until 15 
> July 2016 (Locking Down the Final /8 Policy)
>
>
> Thank you Marco.
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would encourage everyone to carefully read this second version (and not 
> just respond "no, still hate it, kill it with fire") as it is quite different 
> from the first version.
>
> Basically the only restriction left is to disallow transfers on all "last /8 
> space"* going forward, and there is some language added to the policy that 
> tries to raise awareness that if you just go and parcel out that entire 
> allocation to endusers, you might end up feeling a little bit silly a couple 
> of years from now.
>
> Looking forward to a positive discussion,
>
> Remco
>
> * any suggestions for a better title for this space are most welcome as well
>
>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 15:58 , Marco Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> The Discussion Period for the policy proposal 2016-03, "Locking Down the 
>> Final /8 Policy" has been extended until 15 July 2016.
>>
>> The goal of this proposal is to ban transfers of allocations made under the 
>> final /8 policy.
>>
>> The text of the proposal has been revised based on mailing list feedback and 
>> we have published a new version (2.0) today.
>> As a result, a new Discussion Phase has started for the proposal.
>>
>> Some of the differences from version 1.0 include:
>> - Several restrictions have been removed
>> - Adds a recommendation that LIRs should conserve whole or part of their 
>> final /22 allocation for interoperability purposes
>>
>> You can find the full proposal at:
>> https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2016-03
>>
>> We encourage you to review this policy proposal and send your comments to 
>> <[email protected]>.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Marco Schmidt
>> Policy Development Officer
>> RIPE NCC
>>
>> Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum
>>
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