Thanks, Nikolay. Also I should append that for stability of Internet end-users should be in safety. It's mean that never-never-never resources can not be under stress if they currently in use! Part of that - RIPE NCC should not have a rights to terminate SSA without holding status for arbitration period. End-user SHOULD NOT PANIC. Official Notification of Termination - it's reason for panic. Of course, if we change policy for keeping used resources even LIR placed under termination procedure, happiness will come.
On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 23:52, Nikolay Gorstkin <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Sander > > I will try to explain briefly. > > - Did the NCC end the membership for violation? > > Yes, the RIPE NCC is talking about violations, but we do not agree with > that. We had no chance to prove our innocence. > > Recently, the RIPE NCC sent us - Official Notification of Termination. As > they say they terminate the SSA in accordance with 9.4h. > I will describe the details in the morning in the request for arbitration. > > Thank. > > -- > *Nikolay Gorstkin* > > 6 марта 2019 г., в 23:10, Sander Steffann <[email protected]> написал(а): > > We did not convert to PA. But unfortunately they did not know that it was > necessary to keep Sponsoring with a third party. > > > I'm a bit confused. What exactly are you doing? > > - Is the legal entity that was an LIR stopping? If the legal entity > disappears then the resources go back to the NCC > - Is the legal entity cancelling its RIPE NCC membership? In that case the > resources can still be assigned to the legal entity and you should be able > to find another sponsoring LIR > - Did the NCC end the membership for violation of policies or non-payment? > In that case: yes, you don't have any rights to those resources anymore > - Something else? > > Without any mor information we're just guessing, which isn't very useful. > I urge you to talk to the NCC to work this out, and if you can't work it > out there is always the arbitration procedure... I don't think this is > something that can be solved on APWG though. > > Full disclosure: I'm an arbiter on the NCC arbitration panel > > Cheers, > Sander > > >
