Hi,

on 12.03.2019 19:16, Maxim A Piskunov wrote:
> Hello, Gert, Community.
>
> IPv4 - it's not outdated, exact about IPv4 we are talking. Not about IPv6.

IPv4 address space has been used up already, just accept the facts.

> And while we still need IPv4 I wake up members to solve issues:
> 1. End-user should have independence of LIR

You're 20 years late. There are no resources in IPv4 to support this anymore, 
therefore it's buy IPv4 space (on a market that shouldn't be there in the first 
place) or become an LIR (better hurry, IPv4 number resources are scarce 
already) or prepare to renumber in case of LIR closure.

> 2. Independence of LIR may be obtained by conversion PA to PI and passing 
> addresses to end-user. (/24 or greatest).

Technically, that's true. Feel free to send a proposal according to RIPE's PDP.

> 3. Even end-user using address from PA and address block /24 or greatest, we 
> should change policy to allow conversion PA to PI for allocated to end-user's 
> addresses if LIR placed under deregistration procedure.

For already stated reasons I do not think that's a way to move forward, but 
anyone may supply any proposal via the PDP to discuss it within the RIPE 
Community.

> Community, please support my proposals.

I do not see any chance for this in this timeline, but am looking forward to 
discuss it, once a formal proposal exists.

Regards,
-kai



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