Colleagues
Someone has kindly referred me to the conversation you had last November on
this same paragraph 6.2. It's not surprising that there is some reluctance to
discuss it again. BUT this is a different discussion. Last time you focussed on
defining what type of network needs to be separately registered in the RIPE
Database. I want to discuss the next step from that. Once you have decided a
type of network needs to be separately registered then what information about
that network needs to be entered into the RIPE Database?
I will come straight to the point, which should be controversial enough to
start a discussion :) MY interpretation of the wording in 6.2 is that the
policy, as written, requires an ORGANISATION object to be created for these End
Users if you register their network in the RIPE Database.
Let me explain my reasoning for this interpretation. The policy refers to the
End User as either an individual or an organisation. In other words the End
User is the '(legal) entity' that operates the network. Just as the LIR is the
(legal) entity that holds the allocation resource. So when the policy requires
the contact details of the End User, it is requiring the contact details of
this operating entity. That is not the "xxx-c" attributes in the INETNUM
object, it is an ORGANISATION object details.
This takes us back to the long running discussion we had with "abuse-c:" where
many members refused to create separate ORGANISATION objects for End Users just
to add an "abuse-c:" for them. But as it is currently written, this is exactly
what this policy requires. Perhaps the wording of this paragraph 6.2 doesn't
reflect the original intent. So what we must now do is look again at this
situation and answer 3 basic questions about these End Users:
1/ What information do we need/want to store about the End User?
2/ What is the reason for storing this information?
3/ Who needs this information?
If we can answer these basic questions then perhaps the policy needs to be
updated.
cheersdenis
co-chair DB-WG
On Monday, 15 April 2019, 16:18:33 CEST, ripedenis--- via address-policy-wg
<[email protected]> wrote:
6.2 Network Infrastructure and End User Networks
When an End User has a network using public address space this must be
registered separately with the contact details of the End User. Where the End
User is an individual rather than an organisation, the contact information of
the service provider may be substituted for the End Users.
