Elad, "coconut" is not an "honorary title" for crying out loud, please just stop posting.
And please stop calling people antisemitic, racist, and spamhaus employees just for criticizing you... - Cynthia On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 11:57 PM Elad Cohen <[email protected]> wrote: > Cynthia, all I did was to respond. > > A coconut is an honorary title to that person that was called, not by me, > but by many other people which are not related to me in Nanog - a racist > and an antisemitic, because of his many online expressions. > > Respectfully, > Elad > ------------------------------ > *From:* Cynthia Revström <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Sunday, May 3, 2020 12:52 AM > *To:* Elad Cohen <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Gert Doering <[email protected]>; [email protected] < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette > > Please Elad, stop this madness, just stop posting to any RIPE mailing list > unless it is actually on topic, please! > > Also you said the word "coconut" 8 times in one email.... > > - Cynthia > > On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 11:21 PM Elad Cohen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gert, > > Please forgive me for missing that misleading reply of yours and I'm sure > that you are interested to hear my response. (anyone can just skip to the > last part, about our fake Chairman) > > > --- > > > *"Calling someone "a Coconut" is definitely not the type of tone we want > here. Stick to factual discussions, take the name-calling elsewhere." * > --- > You are twisting the facts, it was the Coconut that started it all months > ago at Nanog and also here in the Anti-Abuse Working Group. The coconut > called me in many names over a period of months without a single proof > against me - also in your working group - and you did nothing (if you are > going to say: but the Coconut didn't say your name in our group - well he > didn't but you could still say something). > > > --- > > > *"Calling someone "a Coconut" is definitely not the type of tone we want > here. Stick to factual discussions, take the name-calling elsewhere." * > --- > I didn't hear you or anyone else writing anything to the Coconut in the > many months that the Coconut defamed me without a single proof against me, > only because I dared to stood up against the illegal anonymous organization > "The Spamhaus Project". > > > --- > > *Yes! I was so hoping for a new round of "Gert Doering is totally > unworthy of being a WG chair". We haven't had this in a long while.* > --- > You are not worth to be in any leading role when you make decisions based > on connections and who you know. > > > --- > > > > *I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just trying to remind people of house > rules. You are are calling names, and you are damaging your own reputation > by repeatedly refusing to adhere to list etiquette aka "house rules".* > --- > You didn't remind to the Coconut any of the house rules, you are just > saying "we didn't know to whom the coconut refers and now we know and we > will tell nothing to the coconut but we will not vote to the person that he > referred to" - I hope that the readers see clearly what you are doing. > > > And last but not least, because you are obviously interested that our > Chairman will be re-elected and that is the only reason that you want to > show to the readers why they shouldn't elect me, it is important to me to > write the following lines to the readers: > > On 14th of April our Chairman supported the nomination of Maria Hall and > another candidate in the following two links: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/agm-nominations/2020-April/000690.html > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/agm-nominations/2020-April/000691.html > > Then 15 minutes after it, Maria Hall supported the nomination of our > Chairman in the following link: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/agm-nominations/2020-April/000692.html > > But there is something strange in the description that Maria Hall wrote: > > The line "Reason for nominating the candidate:" appear twice right below > each other: > > Reason for nominating the candidate: > Reason for nominating the candidate: > Christian is very active in the RIPE community, where he has attended every > meeting for several years and is Co-Chair of the RIPE MAT WG. > In the last four years, Christian served on the RIPE NCC Executive Board as > Secretary and since 2018 is the Executive Board Chairman. Christian has shown > very strong and positive leadership in his role as chair of the board and I > know that, both in the present situation and in upcoming times, Christians > leadership, dedication and passion will be absolutely necessary for RIPE NCC. > > > This is because she did copy-paste, she did copy paste for the whole > paragraph that was sent to her (including the title) from our respected > Chairman that wrote it on himself, and all she did was copy-paste, is this > what we want ? a fake Chairman ? look what he wrote on himself. Look how > Gert is pushing that no change in the Board will be made. You are being > manipulated dear readers. > > Please allow me repeat what our Chairman wrote on himself: > > *"Christian has shown very strong and positive leadership in his role as > chair of the board and I know that, both in the present situation and in > upcoming times, Christians leadership, dedication and passion will be > absolutely necessary for RIPE NCC"* > > Is this the board that you want ? a fake board ? > > Who knows what is going on with the expenses, to where they are flowing, > any request for detailed information of RIPE expenses is being redirected > to these people in the Board that say that NDA is signed with all the > suppliers. Can we trust them when they are cheating the community in such a > way ? > > Gert, I'm asking from you not to take part in it and to cheat the > community as well. > > Now Gert will probably moderate me so I will not write any other truth > which is against his interests. > > Respectfully, > Elad > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Gert Doering > *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:33 PM > *To:* Elad Cohen > *Cc:* Gert Doering; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette > > Hi, > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 10:16:41AM +0000, Elad Cohen wrote: > > I didn't attack anyone, I only responded to a defamation post against me > in your working group, which to it you didn't write anything. > > > > Ronald is aCoconut by many people, and he is defaming me and calling me > > in names for many many months, including in the post in your own working > > group - which you completely ignored > > As I said, it was not necessary to have a third WG chair repeat the same > thing that Briand and Denis already said. > > Calling someone "a Coconut" is definitely not the type of tone we want > here. Stick to factual discussions, take the name-calling elsewhere. > > (Note that Ronald did not mention your name at all, so it is very helpful > that you make abundantly clear *who* he refers to, so we can do a much > better informed executive board election). > > > > - so this says a lot about yourself and about your title as a co-chair, > > Yes! I was so hoping for a new round of "Gert Doering is totally > unworthy of being a WG chair". We haven't had this in a long while. > > > So go ahead, Gert, attack me once more in an unbalanced way. > > I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just trying to remind people of house > rules. You are are calling names, and you are damaging your own > reputation by repeatedly refusing to adhere to list etiquette aka > "house rules". > > Gert Doering > -- AWPG chair > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael > Emmer > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. 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