Yes, there are many complexities involved with M&As, nevertheless, when two organizations merge, it seems reasonable for any assignments the original organizations had that were legacy status prior to the merger to maintain their legacy status with the newly merged organization. A more complicated situation is when a small part of an organization is transferred and the result of the transaction are two separate organizations. In my mind, if there are other substantial assets, other than just the IP addresses, like maybe a customer base, are involved then maintaining the legacy status makes sense. However, if the only substantial assets transferred are IP addresses then it is not an M&A transfer, but a reassignment to a different organization.
Service fees, and who pays what, are not Internet Resource Policy issues, they are business issues that fall under the organizational governance of each RIR. Thanks On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 8:41 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi David, > > > > I never though on this from your perspective, and I think you’re right. > > > > However, the point about M&A it is a bit more complex. If it is just a > pure “renaming” of the company I will agree with you, but there are cases, > where is not really a new “version of the organization”, in fact it may be > just a way for a business to obtain IP addresses, or an ISP join/buy > smaller ones to become bigger, etc. I think trying to differentiate those > cases will make it very difficult. > > > > However, there is an independent problem, which is getting services for > free, which are being covered by the rest of the membership. > > > > Regards, > > Jordi > > @jordipalet > > El 21/10/20 13:57, "address-policy-wg en nombre de David Farmer via > address-policy-wg" <[email protected] en nombre de > [email protected]> escribió: > > > > The concept that the legacy status applies independently to resources or > IP addresses, separate from their assignment to a resource holder, seems > incorrect. The legacy status applies to the assignment of resources to a > resource holder before the creation of the RIRs, but not to the resources > or the IP addresses themselves. > > > > All IPv4 addresses were created at the same time. When they were assigned > for use differs; therefore, when they were assigned for use and to whom > they are assigned for use is what matters. > > When addresses are transferred to a different organization, a new > assignment is made, or in other words, they are reassigned. And it seems > proper that the new assignment no longer has the legacy status, as they are > now assigned to a different organization. > > When a merger or acquisition occurs, we also call that a transfer, but it > is a transfer to a new version of the same organization, not to a different > organization. In this case, it seems propers that the assignment maintains > its legacy status, as the same organization, just a different version of > the same organization, continues to hold the assignment. > > > > The legacy status is important and is not a mistake because, as a > community, we believe it is important to maintain the uniqueness of the > assignments made before the creation of the RIRs. However, at least in my > opinion, it is a mistake to believe that the legacy status applies to IP > addresses independent of who holds the assignment. > > > > Thank you. > -- > > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:[email protected] > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of > the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized > disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly > prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the > intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or > use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including > attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal > offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this > communication and delete it. > > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:[email protected] Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
