Hi Nick, One of the inputs from the previous version was that some folks that have even 100 LIRs to trade with IPv6 addresses can keep “abusing" the system by asking for an upgrade of each /29 to /28, then they can even split the prefixes, etc.
So the idea here is that instead of allowing every LIR to upgrade to /28, we only allow 1 upgrade per organization, not per LIR. The idea behind this is that most of the organizations that didn’t have enough with a /29, will fall in the category that they created one additional LIR. If they needed many more /29’s probably they are bigger enough to have justified a /26 or /24 (just examples). Now, to avoid the abuse possibility of breaking down a /29 into multiple /32s, we only allow the upgrade of the prefix “originally issued”. So we will be able to upgrade an original /29, but not each of the broken down (and transferred) /32s. We are trying to benefit the majority of those organizations that really need the addresses for their network (not for trading), and at the same time mitigate as much as possible abuse cases. The risk is that a presumable very very very few organizations that may need more than /28 need to keep doing a justification for a bigger prefix. If the community agree with those goals and disagree with the way we expresed it, we could find a better way to rephrase this, even if it means longer text, bullet points with all the conditions or whatever. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet > El 11 mar 2025, a las 11:52, Nick Hilliard <[email protected]> escribió: > > The proposed policy text for 5.7 is unclear. I had to re-read it a couple of > times to figure out what it meant. Can I suggest the following rewording to > make it clearer? > >> 5.7. Existing IPv6 address space holders >> >> An organization that holds one or more IPv6 allocations originally issued by >> the RIPE NCC as a single prefix may request an extension of one of these >> allocations up to a /28 without the need for additional documentation. Only >> one such extension may be granted per organisation, regardless of the number >> of LIR accounts held by the organisation. >> >> The RIPE NCC should allocate the new address space contiguously with the >> LIRs' existing allocations and avoid allocating non-contiguous space under >> this policy section. > > Nick > > > Leo Vegoda wrote on 10/03/2025 14:33: >> >> Dear Address Policy WG, >> >> If you support this proposal, please say so. A simple +1 or 👍 is all that's >> needed. >> >> If you oppose this proposal, please say so and indicate why. A simple >> explanation is fine. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Leo Vegoda for the Address Policy WG co-chairs >> >> >> On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 at 03:15, Angela Dall'Ara <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> >>> >>> RIPE policy proposal 2024-02, "IPv6 Initial Allocations /28 " is now >>> available for discussion again. >>> >>> >>> >>> This proposal aims to change the initial IPv6 allocation size from /29 to >>> /28. >>> >>> >>> Following the last round of discussion, this proposal has been updated >>> and it is now at version 2.0. >>> >>> The main differences from version 1.0 are that it allows the provision >>> without additional documentation of initial allocations from /32 up to /28, >>> instead of /32 or /28, and only a single existing allocation extension per >>> member. >>> >>> You can find the full proposal at: >>> >>> https://www.ripe.net/community/policies/proposals/2024-02/ >>> >>> As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this >>> four-week Discussion Phase is to discuss the proposal and provide feedback >>> to the proposers. >>> >>> >>> At the end of the Discussion Phase, the proposers, with the agreement of >>> the WG Chairs, will decide how to proceed with the proposal. >>> >>> >>> >>> The PDP document can be found at: >>> >>> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-781 >>> >>> >>> We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to >>> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> before 28 March 2025. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Angela Dall'Ara >>> >>> Policy Officer >>> >>> RIPE NCC >>> ----- >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, >>> please visit: >>> https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/address-policy-wg.ripe.net/ >>> As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with >>> the email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. >>> More details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/ >> >> >> ----- >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, >> please visit: >> https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/address-policy-wg.ripe.net/ >> As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with >> the email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. >> More details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/ > > ----- > To unsubscribe from this mailing list or change your subscription options, > please visit: > https://mailman.ripe.net/mailman3/lists/address-policy-wg.ripe.net/ > As we have migrated to Mailman 3, you will need to create an account with the > email matching your subscription before you can change your settings. > More details at: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/mailman-3-migration/ ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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