Thanks everyone for the advice. Unfortunately, I'm still not making
any progress, and I have a deadline approaching.

  Perhaps I need to try a different tact on this.

  I have Premeire 6.5 and the bundled DVDit! Le software that came
with it. I have a timeline with 58 minutes of video and audio. I am
trying to burn this on to a DVD. Has ANYONE out there EVER managed to
get such a system to successfully burn a DVD of this length - with
decent video and audio quality? And if so, how exactly did you manage
to do so? Is there some specific set of bitrate and Image quality
settings that are known to work? I know it can be done with shorter
projects or with situations where poor image quality is not a concern.
but I have a project of 58 minutes and image quality IS important. 

  I think I've seen enough to convince me that Premiere 6.5 and DVDit!
are inferior products and constituted a very poor choice for such
project. I would NOT recommend them to anyone else, and I certainly
wouldn't use either of them again if I could avoid it, especially not
DVDit! But right now, its what I'm stuck with. Replacing them with a
better product or attempting a complex and/or expensive overhaul of
the system right now is out of the question.

 I'm hoping to find a way to make due with what I got just now. Any
one know a way this could be done?

Regards,

DAVE






>
> Dave,
> 
> I'm using exactly the same software you are (but recently started 
> using ProCoder Express for the mpg conversion)and it's worked great.  
> I have seen the "data exceeds multipexable bit rate" error msg before 
> when I tried to really crank it up, but lowering it a bit always 
> cured the problem.  I ALWAYS use the quality setting at its highest 
> point.  
> 
> Before I start trying ot explain some of this I want you to know I am 
> NOT one of the "technical gurus" on this board, and if someone has a 
> better explaination, please jump in & correct me.  Your bitrate is 
> basically the amount of data that is being fed per second from the 
> DVD to the player.  Thats the "kbps" you see after the # you set it 
> to (KiloBits Per Second).The lower the bitrate, the smaller the file, 
> but... it lowers the overall quality.  You can think of it as 
> lowering the resolution.  I'm sure you've seen web video thats a bit 
> jumpy, and very pixelated... thats the result of a VERY low bit 
> rate.  Sometimes you need to make something that low because maybe 
> you need to email it.  If you turn the bit rate up extremely high, 
> the quality is fantastic, but imagine the results od hooking a garden 
> hose up to a fire hydrant.  You can't get that much water (data from 
> a high bit rate) down the hose!  You have exceeded the bitrate that a 
> DVD player can handle.
> 
> Now... Muliplexing is the combination of multiple files into one 
> stream.  As you convert the files in Adobe's Main Concept DVD 
> encoder, you are making 2 distinct files... an audio, and a video 
> file.  When you import them into DVDit! you should be importing both 
> files as individual files.  When DVDit! starts processing, you will 
> see it say, "processing video files", then "processing audio files" 
> (probably a few other things) and then... multiplexing.  At this 
> point it's linking the audio & video together, but it sees that the 
> combined bitrate of the 2 files exceeds the maximum level it thinks a 
> standard DVD player can handle.
> 
> So, hopefully I haven't confused you any more.  Heres a question.  
> How long is the piece you are trying to put on DVD?  Mine are usually 
> about 15 minutes, so I don't have a problem with space on the DVD.  
> There may be something wrong because you should have NO problem with 
> a file at 4000kbps.  Do you know what version of the Main Concept 
> encoder you have?  I beleive the current version is 1.3 but I could 
> be wrong.  
> 
> Just for a test, try encoding a short piece (just a minute or two 
> will be fine) using the "low data rate" preset in the Main concept 
> encoder.  Will be interesting to see what happens.  We can try to 
> narrow the problem down, but it could be software related & have 
> nothing to do with what you are doing.  You should be able to make 
> some nice DVDs with what you have.  
> 
> Lee       
> 
> ********************************************
> >  Hello Lee.
> > 
> >   Thanks again for your assistance. Yes, I was mistakenly equating
> > additional audio tracks with additional audio streams. so evidently 
> > this was not the core of the problem I thought it was.
> > 
> >   I reduced the bitrate from 8000+ to 4000, but it didn't help. I
> > still get the "DATA EXCEEDS MULTIPLEXiBLE..." message, and the 
> burning
> > process aborts before it starts.
> > 
> >    I have used an image quality setting of 49. Perhaps lowering this
> > will help? I'll try that tonight. 
> > 
> >   I am using the MPEG encoder in the Premiere 6.5 to convert the 
> time
> > line to .m2v files.
> > 
> >   I'm very hazy on what the bitrate actually is. Is there some 
> optimal
> > balance bitrate, image quality and program length that I am failing 
> to
> > understand, or is there something else going on here?
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > DAVE
>









 
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