I was working on something today and came across some info about IMPORT and
remembered this thread.

When importing, there is a DATE option and it has 2 possible values,
ABSOLUTE and RELATIVE.  Use absolute to keep the backup/archive date and it
will expire as expected.  Use relative to reset the backup/archive date to
today.

Dates
     Specifies whether the dates for the file copies are set as the same
date when the files were exported, or is adjusted to the import date.
     This parameter supports the following values:

     Absolute
          The dates for file copies are set to the values specified when
the files were exported.

     Relative
          The dates for file copies are adjusted to the import date.

The default value is ABSOLUTE.

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Thanks,
Marc...

Marc Lanteigne
Spectrum Protect Specialist AVP / SRT
IBM Systems, Spectrum Protect / Plus
+1-506-460-9074  <- New phone number
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marcelo Urbano Lima - mul...@br.ibm.com <mul...@br.ibm.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 02:56 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ADSM-L] Moving long term archives to new server

It's been a long while since I exported/imported data to remember exactly
how it behaves but just to give another point of view, imagine that you
exported data to a tape and it's sitting there in a rack way past its
original expiration date.

Once it's exported it's no longer bound to a management class in a server
with expiration running everyday. It's like an external entity now, just a
bunch of importable data on a tape.

Now, right after you decide and import it back to a server it would be a
weird behavior if the next expiration removed it right away, just because
its original archive_date/expiration was from years ago, in a server that
you no longer care (thus you exported the data in a more neutral format)...
even though it still remembers its original class name.

Regards

--

Marcelo Urbano Lima

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Lanteigne
<marclantei...@ca.ibm.com<mailto:marc%20lanteigne%20%3cmarclantei...@ca.ibm.com%3e>>

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<ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU<mailto:%22ADSM:%20dist%20stor%20manager%22%20%3cads...@vm.marist.edu%3e>>

To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU<mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ADSM-L] Moving long term archives to new server
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 18:19:23 +0000


Bonjour Eric,


One thing that might help:


On the old server:

- use COPY DOMAIN to copy the existing domain to a new domain

- use UPDATE NODE to switch the node to be in the new domain

- use EXPORT POLICY to export the new domain to the new server


On the new server, update the archive copy groups in the new domain to

point to the file pool.


This will ensure that the new server has all the right retentions for this

node, then from the old server, export the node.


And I'm like Uwe, I don't think an export should change the ARCHVE_DATE in

the ACHIVES table.  It's certainly not mentioned in the help.


-

Thanks,

Marc...


Marc Lanteigne

Spectrum Protect Specialist AVP / SRT

IBM Systems, Spectrum Protect / Plus

+1-506-460-9074  <- New phone number

<mailto:marclantei...@ca.ibm.com>

marclantei...@ca.ibm.com


Office Hours:  Monday to Friday, 7:00 to 15:30 Eastern


IBM




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From: Uwe Schreiber <

<mailto:uwe.h.schrei...@t-online.de>

uwe.h.schrei...@t-online.de

>

Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 01:58 PM

To:

<mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>

ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU


Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ADSM-L] Moving long term archives to new server


Hi Erik,


if the management class which was used at the source server is not defined

on the new server, then the default management class on the target server

will be used for the imported objects.

To keep the retention it is required to define the management classes on

the target server as on the source server.


Regards, Uwe



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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <

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ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

> On Behalf Of Loon,

Eric van (ITOP NS) - KLM

Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2021 17:31

To:

<mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>

ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU


Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Moving long term archives to new server


Hi Uwe,


No, they are not. Both the policy domain names and the management class

names have changed...

I don't think the convert changes the retention, I think they are reset

during the export from the old to the new server. The new server seems to

treat them as new archives and thus the counter starts at 0.


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Storage & Backup


-----Original Message-----

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager <

<mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>

ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

> On Behalf Of Uwe

Schreiber

Sent: woensdag 6 januari 2021 16:55

To:

<mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>

ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU


Subject: Re: Moving long term archives to new server


Hi Eric,


are the definitions regarding


- Name of policy domain where the node is assigned to

- Naming of management classes

- Retention setting in achive copy groups


identical on both servers?


Converting the filepool to a container pool should not reset any retention

settings.


Regards, Uwe



-----Original Message-----

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ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

> On Behalf Of Loon,

Eric van (ITOP NS) - KLM

Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2021 16:32

To:

<mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>

ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU


Subject: [ADSM-L] Moving long term archives to new server


Hi all,


I need to move long term archives (10 years+) from an old server (6.3 with

virtual tapes) to a new server (8.1.11 with directory containers). The only

way to do this is by exporting the data to a temporary filepool and convert

this to the containerpool afterwards. The problem is that this resets the

archive retention. So an archive file created 5 years ago with a retention

of 10 years, will again be stored for 10 years on the new server. Has

anybody found a better way to move such data to a new server with a

container pool?

Thanks in advance for any help!


Kind regards,

Eric van Loon

Air France/KLM Storage & Backup

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