Minor point: Pete and I both work in the same group; it is just our sig information that differs. :-)
It would help to know which TSM server version you are using, and what your tsmjbbd.ini file looks like. Note that journal-based backups require a 4.2.0 (or higher) TSM server as well, so if you are running at 4.1 or less, then that explains why the journal backups aren't working. About the IDLETIMEOUT question: if it is simply the producer session timing out, I wouldn't bother increasing IDLETIMEOUT. If it is idle for an hour at a time, then whatever time is taken to re-establish the session is neglible. Note that IDLETIMEOUT messages are not necessarily indicative of problems, and this sounds like just such a case. Where are you seeing the "psFsMonitorThread" message? As far as I know, this should only appear if you have tracing enabled. Trace messages are intended for use by IBM service and development, so they are not documented. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. "Malbrough, Demetrius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/10/2002 10:22 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: ***The JOURNALED BACKUP saga continues...*** ****Any *SMers using NT Journal Backups**** **This question is posed to Tivoli Client Development [Andy Raibeck] or Tivoli Storage Solutions Software Development [Pete Tanenhaus] if possible!!!!** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- I have read all of the information about Journal Backups in the "Tivoli Storage Manager for Windows Using the Backup-Archive Client" Manual and also the "4.2.1 READMe for NT" and it seems that there is more information needed on the behavior of Journal-Based Backups! I have an NT 4.0 client with TSM 4.2.1.15 (I will soon be upgrading to 4.1.2.20) client installed which it processes approximately 290,000 objects with about 2,200 (less than 1%) changing on a daily basis. If the amount of daily change activity is less than 5% is it still beneficial to use Journal Backups? When I first upgraded to 4.2.1.15 from 4.1.2.0, I decided not to perform a Journal backup on this particular client, so I DISABLED the service. On Tuesday, I started the Journal Service so it could begin its journaling process and log any changed objects or its attributes in the journal database. The backup still took 9.5 hours to complete with the same behavior as without Journaling. So, I continued to let it run the next night and it still took 9.5 hours as well. It seems as if the Journal Engine Service is not working properly! I still see sessions terminating due to the extensive processing/querying that the producer thread does while in an idlewait status. An excerpt from the dsmsched.log-----> 21:32:08 ANS1898I ***** Processed 73,500 files ***** 21:33:00 ANS1898I ***** Processed 74,000 files ***** 21:34:06 ANS1898I ***** Processed 74,500 files ***** 21:35:24 ANS1898I ***** Processed 75,000 files ***** 21:36:28 ANS1898I ***** Processed 75,500 files ***** 21:37:33 ANS1898I ***** Processed 76,000 files ***** 21:38:41 ANS1898I ***** Processed 76,500 files ***** 21:39:48 ANS1898I ***** Processed 77,000 files ***** 21:40:57 ANS1898I ***** Processed 77,500 files ***** 21:42:21 ANS1898I ***** Processed 78,000 files ***** 21:43:45 ANS1898I ***** Processed 78,500 files ***** *************STILL PROCESSING UNTIL******************** 23:51:44 ANS1898I ***** Processed 151,500 files ***** 00:02:09 ANS1898I ***** Processed 155,000 files ***** 00:02:10 ANS1898I ***** Processed 156,500 files ***** 00:02:17 ANS1898I ***** Processed 157,000 files ***** 00:11:39 ANS1898I ***** Processed 162,000 files ***** 00:12:58 ANS1898I ***** Processed 163,000 files ***** 00:14:06 ANS1898I ***** Processed 163,500 files ***** 00:16:54 ANS1898I ***** Processed 165,000 files ***** 00:19:23 ANS1898I ***** Processed 165,500 files ***** 00:19:25 ANS1898I ***** Processed 166,500 files ***** 00:20:05 ANS1898I ***** Processed 167,000 files ***** 00:20:31 ANS1898I ***** Processed 167,500 files ***** Between 21:32:08 and 00:20:31 (almost 3 hrs) is when I see multiple sessions terminating due to the idlewait time of 60 mins. Should I increase the IDLEWAIT time to 180 mins. (3 hrs) or will that only eliminate the multiple sessions timing out or increase the performance of my backup? Also, if anyone can explain this message it would be greatly appreciated? "psFsMonitorThread(tid 1044): Object 'C:\WINNT\Temp\TMP5.tmp' was deleted after notification." Thanks, Demetrius Malbrough UNIX/TSM Administrator