Hi Lars
Seems you're doing a manual HSM routine?
Why don't use DiskXtender instead? DiskXtender doesn't change the last
accessed date/time, and migrates old files, based on your rules,
automatically to your storagepool(or storagepools, for example
disk>>optical>>tape).
The DiskXtender software isn't that expensive, but requires some work to
achieve best optimization.
For Netware servers, you could use FileWizard TSM from Knozall Software. It
has the same function as DiskXtender, but works with Netware 4X/5X. We're
using both applications in our demo environment, and it works like a charm.
Best Regards
Daniel Sparrman
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Daniel.
I agree the operating system changes the access date.
In the same time, I'm convinced you can take control of a file read to not
update the last accessed date or at least remember the date and put it back
again after the read.
I guess the TSM developers have the knowledge to fix an archive or backup
without updating the last accessed date.
>From my point of view as a storage manager, centralised storage management
routines should never update the file attributes. They shall always reflect
the customer's/user's accesses.
I would like to see the TSM archive and TSM backup not updating the last
accessed date on the read files. In fact no infrastructure routine should
update the attributes. If I like to have a specific process for old files
(not used for a long time). How can I find them to, for example, archive
(with delete) if there have been some selective backups and/or archive
(copy only) executed. The files will not age right from the business point
of view.
/Lars
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-----Original Message-----
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Sorry, didn't think about the mess getting on the list.
Here's a translation:
Hi Lars
It's not the TSM client that changes the Last Access date, rather the
operating system. Netware, or Windows for that mather, senses when the file
is changed by an application, or user, and changes the date accordingly.
Therefore, this is probably a setting in the operating system. But I don't
now how to handle this in Netware, perhaps you know more about this than
me.
:)
Best Regards
Daniel Sparrman
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Salak Juraj
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Hej Daniel,
ked sa dohovaras sukromne s Larsom tak je svedstina OK,
ale potom mu napis na sukromnu adresu.
Ked pises do verejneho fora, tak pouzivaj, prosim Ta, anglictinu
Juraj ;))))
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Hej Lars
Det är inte TSM klienten som ändrar "Last Accessed" datumet, utan
operativsystemet. Netware, eller Windows för den delen, känner av när filen
accessas av en programvara, eller användare, och ändrar därefter datumet.
Därför borde denna förändring ligga i operativsystemets inställningar. Jag
vet dock inte hur detta hanteras i Netware. Det kanske du kan bättre än
mig.
Mvh // Daniel Sparrman
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Hi.
Do anyone know if it's possible to archive files
by the TSM client and NOT changing the last accessed date?
If - How?
I need it for an archive routine that finds old
files (not accessed since long time) in the centralised
Netware file servers from where we distribute personal
and project libraries to our customers PC's.
The intention is, like we always have tried to do in
the mainframes, have the date attributes to reflect
the customer activities. I.e. have the infrastructure
routines to behave transparent from the customers point
of view.
I'm doing the archiving by a Windows2000 TSM client access
via the shares and not by the TSM Netware client to
guarantee later access independent from possible file
server farm changes in the future.
Have someone tried something in this area, please tell
me where you found the worst pitfalls.
/Lars
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