Hello,
Tim makes a very good point in the last sentence of the 1st paragraph. "It's
tough talking to TSM support when doing Bare
Metal Restores - I get the line - We don't support that!"...

Now I know I have seen some TSM tech support people respond on this
listserv; Could someone please define, once and for all, what TSM means by
Bare Metal restore? I mean..if they "do" support the backup and restoring of
the "guts of Win2K in AD" (i.e. System State/Objects) Why do they say  "We
don't support that!"?

I have spoken with TSM tech support over phone and they say that they can
backup and restore the AD...However, the one answer I got over the phone was
that they(TSM), will not say we support BMR is because they do not want to
get caught up in supporting M.S.'s OS. So please can some one define Bare
Metal Restore?

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Rushforth, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "Please HELP !!" TSM and Windows 2000 Active Directory.


I've just done some bare metal restore tests with 5.11 client on w2k dc in a
test environment.  2 DC's in AD domain, native mode, integrated DNS, both
servers Global Catalog servers.  All fsmo's on dc1, I restored dc2.  The
restore worked fine except for TSM.  Failed to start one of the services
after the restore - said a file was missing.  (TSM was installed via Group
Policy).  Had to play around a bit to uninstall TSM then reinstall then
things seemed to work fine.  I've run into something similar with a 4.1
client and DC restores.  It's tough talking to TSM support when doing Bare
Metal Restores - I get the line - We don't support that!

I've done multiple member server restore tests with 5.11 and never ran into
this problem but ran into it 2 times on dc restores.  I also tried a
retrieve combined with MS system state restore.  This seemed to work better
(here no problems with tsm but there were a couple weird ad messages).  But
the resulting system seemed to be fine.

All of my restores were to exact same h/w.

You just have to be sure to be backing up the system state (DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL
will do it).  For a DC I would recommend running MS Backup of System State
as insurance.

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

-----Original Message-----
From: Consiglio, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: June 20, 2002 7:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "Please HELP !!" TSM and Windows 2000 Active Directory.

I too have been posting this question to this list for about a month and a
half....From what I am reading, Some users are saying that they can backup
the System object either manually, or through the DSM.OPT file.

I have several questions:

1.) Has any one ever done a " Successful" disaster recovery with TSM 4.2x
(or higher) on a W2K DC in AD?

2.) Which version?

3.) Was it to Same server or Different server?

4.) What should we be aware or watch out for?

5.) Since we do not administer the TSM backup servers we would have to do
this through the DSM.OPT file, how could this be accomplished?

Any response would be greatly appreciated.



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian L. Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM and Windows 2000 Active Directory.


Good afternoon,

 Can anyone tell me if they have been able to accomplish the following
using TSM 4.2 client running on Windows 2000? We are looking at recovering
a Windows 2000 server using TSM's backup data to a physically different
Windows 2000 server. The hardware is different as well. We are running TSM
4.1 on OS/390 2.10. If someone could point me in the right direction I
would appreciate it.

 If you could let me know what steps were taken and if other software
needed to be used that would be helpful as well.

 Thanks,
    Brian


Brian L. Nick
Systems Technician - Storage Solutions
The Phoenix Companies Inc.
100 Bright Meadow Blvd
Enfield CT. 06082-1900

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