In testing this with our original Exchange 5.5 deployment the brick level
backup and restore takes up far more resources than your typical MS Exchange
API backup. Let's say your Infostore on your 5.5 machine is 30gb in size.
Your backup will probably exceed double that size because every mail box is
backed up as a separate entity any items that are shared or any single item
that has multiple pointers to it will have to be backed up every time it is
referenced in an individual mailbox. Veritas Backup Exec and I believe
Netbackup does have a brick level feature. There are a number of others but
I don't have any experience with them.

Additionally, there are other products out there that will allow retention
of deleted mailboxes for a pre determined amount of time. They do require
integration into the Exchange environment and have to be managed. But that
does not protect you in the event of total server loss or historical or
legal requirements.

In our 5.5 site and during our testing of our Exchange 2000 deployment
environment it has proven to be far more beneficial to have 1 or 2 standby
servers that are used exclusively to restore infostores for legal or
recovery purposes.


Duane Ochs
Systems Administration
Quad/Graphics Inc.
414.566.2375



-----Original Message-----
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange (MailBox Restore and Exchange 2000
Improv ements)


Define what mailbox means to you.  If you are talking about the calendar and
other little goodies including public folders, none do that except maybe
CommVault.  And, I do not think they can do the public folders.

The thing that Veritas and Arcserver created are for marketing only and
really are so slow you can only use it for a few select mailboxes.

None replace the normal exchange backups that you have to do to be able to
recover the exchange stores.

I found out just yesterday that Exchange 2000 has a reserved area you can
restore an information store to.  Once you have done that you can truly
recover a mailbox and its contents.  This was Microsoft's answer to the
problem.  But, Exchange 2000 requires active directory and other hurdles to
get there.  However, my Exchange boys point out you must not put any
mailboxes you might want to recover in the "base" information store because
that one cannot be restored to the reserve area.  That one has all the
exchange specific extensions to active directory.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon, INC
757-688-8180


-----Original Message-----
From: Consiglio, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM and MS Exchange


We have not moved to version 5.1x yet, but we are on version 4.2.2x and the
answer is most definitely not! There are only 2 other outside vendors that
back up bricks, 1.) Veritas 2.) Arcserve2000

The only way to do individual folder recovery (i.e. Inbox, or Sent items,
etc..) is to export to a PST file then back up that file.

-----Original Message-----
From: McMullen David E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM and MS Exchange


We are evaluating TSM here and a question came up with regard to TSM and
Exchange.  Will TSM backup and restore individual mailboxes?

TIA

David McMullen
SMC/LAB Support
512.460.4559

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