David, a little of my history with tsm is in order. I have been with it since v1 r1. Back then there wasn't any audit license command or any other tool to tell me what the usage was. I asked the salesman how to figure it out and he had no clue either.
I developed my own reports using db2 (tsm didn't have sql until v3) to get a count of nodes in use and to license accordingly. Consequently, I have never relied on the audit license table; I set the mansyslan count to 9999 to keep it from whining at me. I have always relied on outside info to order licenses. Basically I agree with you; the audit license command does not give meaningful information, especially since it can't tell which of the servers clients are themselves servers and how many processors are in each. - bill At 12:25 PM 3/10/2004, you wrote: >And none of what you writes makes the TSM software audit of licenses >meaningful. You have to know OUTSIDE of what TSM can tell who which >nodes are desktops and which are servers and how many processors are in >the server machines. Then tell TSM uopir are licensed for enough nodes >to make it shut up because there is no longer a meaninful mapping >between what the software considers a license and what IBM marketing >considers a license. > >david > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/10/2004 10:23:01 AM >>> >David, > >IBM still does charge by node if you say the node is not a server. > >It is up to us, the customers, to characterize the machines to be >backed up >and then buy the proper number and kind of licenses. > >If you say a machine is a single user desktop, even if it has 2 >processors and >has more raw power than some of your servers, you need just 1 desktop >license which >is about a fifth of the price of a server license. > >The TSM pricing model is now function based. The license to backup a >server is more >expensive because the value to you is greater than the value of an end >user desktop backup. > >Hope this helps, > >Bill Colwell > > >At 08:04 AM 3/10/2004, you wrote: >>Nancy, >> >>As far as I can tell it no longer matters what the TSM software >thinks >>you have as far as number of nodes; just tell it you have enough to >make >>it shut up. >> >>The reason it no longer matters is that IBM no longer charges you by >>node but by processor and the TSM software auditing component does >not >>know about processors. TSM software auditing is a relict of a >simpler >>day. >> >>David >> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2004 5:30:52 PM >>> >>We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or >>5.2) >>and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we >>are >>using now and it showed 108 "Managed System for LAN" licenses in use >>(of >>200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the >>discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me? >> >> >>Nancy Reeves >>Technical Support, Wichita State University >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 316-978-3860 > >---------- >Bill Colwell >C. S. Draper Lab >Cambridge Ma. ---------- Bill Colwell C. S. Draper Lab Cambridge Ma.