You might consider using the "Remove=Untileefull" option on the move drm
command. I believe your version of TSM supports it. It will require a reply
after each tape is moved but when the bulk area fills up the move drm
command fails. Then you just pull the tapes out of the bulk I/O door and
issue the move drm command again.

Rick Saylor
Austin Community College

At 09:55 PM 11/16/2004, you wrote:
As always you never fail!!! That's it!! I knew there was another tool that I
was missing and that must be it. I am going to start work on the script in
the morning.

I knew there were two tools and ntutil was an overkill.

Thanks again Wanda, I will post the script when complete for review.

Mark Bertrand


-----Original Message----- From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: query bulk i/o


Hm. I've got an lbtest in c:/program files/tivoli/tsm/device, works on my 3583.

I can get back the inventory, inc. status of the I/O ports.

Not bored enough to try parsing the output, though - maybe if Mark
reallllllly wants it he'll work on it for us!   ;>)


-----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sung Y Lee Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: query bulk i/o


Now I just realized how much I value tapeutil command for AIX. I use this command almost daily to see if there are any tapes loaded in the i/o door. tapeutil -f /dev/smc0 inventory.

I am not familiar with ntutil command other than PD drive issue;
however,
here's the link for Installation and User's Guide which might be
helpful.
If anyone can come up with a single command  in ntutil that will provide
similar as tapeutil -f /dev/smc0 inventory this would be awesome.  Not
sure
if this is possible or not.

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/devdrvr/Doc/IBM_ultrium_tape_IUG.pdf

Sung Y. Lee



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The only way I can think of to do that, is to query the particular slot numbers that make up YOUR I/O door.

You can only do that with something that you can issue the appropriate
SCSI commands with, like mtlib or lbtest, and you have to have a version
of it you can run in background mode and parse the output, etc.

Non-trivial, and definitely not something you can do without a lot of
host language scripting.



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Bertrand
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 2:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: query bulk i/o


No, we don't have autovault or mtlib. I do however have NTutil, but not really sure how to use it for this. I know that I used it in the past for troubleshooting old 3583 library issues. Seems like overkill for this, more of an IBM hardware troubleshooting tool. I only used it under the guidance of IBM support.

I am only using command line for my scripts, tying dsmadmc commands
together
with text outputs and a few Unix for dos tools for the text manipulation
like getting rid of the header information from the text file of my
tapes to
export list.

Yes, I saw your post a year or two back on this subject. I had hoped
that
someone had a fix or work around or would direct me to upgrade if it was
a
new feature.

Your tip to script a 10 count checkout is workable. I could do that but
I am
lazy, I want to know if any tapes are already in bulk before I start
without
having to physically/manually check the bulk I/O. I really don't think
it's
too much to ask for.

OK since I haven't really been bombarded with responses I guess we can
write
this one up for a future request for TSM 10.0, if I only knew where to
send
those....   :)

Thanks again Wanda I always appreciate it.

Mark Bertrand



-----Original Message-----
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:43 PM
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I hate it when that happens (I consider it a major failing of DRM).

1) use Autovault instead, you tell it the max number of tapes to eject
and it won't go over.  (It can't tell, however, if some of your 10 slots
are already full before it starts, it just counts to 10).

2) Write your own script (host language, not TSM) that does a Q DRMEDIA,
parses the results and ejects 10 tapes at a time (what are you using now
for scripting, perl?)

3) out of curiosity, if you don't have tapeutil, do you have mtlib?  You
must have something installed with the LTO drivers?



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Bertrand
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:21 AM
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Subject: query bulk i/o


Has this been resolved yet, in any version? There are a few posts about this issue but I can't seem to find resolution. My basic problem is that I want to write a script that removes export tapes but I don't want it to run if the bulk I/O is full. Funny, I can checkin tapes search=bulk so I know TSM knows the meaning of bulk, why can't I "query bulk"? I also struggle with daily DRM moves that will sometimes go over my allotted 10 I/O and leave tapes for me to find in the system, joy, joy. Nice add-on for "untilfull", but not a viable solution. I just want a way to see if any tapes are in the bulk I/O, is that too much to ask??????? TSM Server 5.1.6.3 Windows 2K (this means I don't have tapeutil, AIX guys) IBM 3584 Library Thanks, Mark Bertrand

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